Friday, November 11, 2005

Muslim scholars scold newspaper for cartoons

Muslim scholars scold newspaper for cartoons

Cartoons featuring Muslim prophet Mohammed caused a divide between Denmark's Muslim and non-Muslim populations, rather than uniting them and calming hostile voices, two of the world's leading Muslim democratic thinkers say. Lawyer and author Shirin Ebadi, who received the Nobel peace prize in 2003 for her fight for human rights and democracy in Iran, told daily newspaper Jyllands-Posten that its decision to call for and print twelve caricatures of the Muslim prophet might have been a well-intentioned attempt to prompt a dialogue on democracy between Muslims and non-Muslims in Denmark. The effect, however, had been the opposite, and in fact risked harming democracy's cause in Islamic countries. 'I would like to stress that I do not personally have any problems with cartoons like these,' said Ebadi, who is a devout Muslim. 'The problem is the way the subject is approached. It splits more than it unites.' She went on to say that many Islamic regimes placed populations in a dilemma, telling them that they had to make a choice between their religion and democracy. 'When people protest, they tell them that Islam and democracy cannot coexist. Totalitarian regimes present them with a choice between Islam and democracy - exactly like some Western intellectuals do. But it's a false controversy,' Ebadi said. 'What your newspaper has done is the same thing undemocratic Islamic government's do, when it comes to discussions about democracy.' She said many Islamic governments were probably ecstatic that the newspaper had printed the cartoons. 'Now they can present this page of the newspaper and say: 'Look what the so-called Western democracies do to your religion!' So it has a negative effect on Muslim people's fight for democracy.' Ebadi said the harmful effect of the prophet cartoons could have been diminished by printing other cartoons by their side, featuring Jesus Christ and Moses, to show Muslims that the intention was not to harm them, but to poke fun at religion in general.

Swiss-born, British philosopher Tariq Ramadan said the newspaper had every right to print the cartoons, but that did not mean the decision was an intelligent one. 'Muslims in the West have to understand that they should not overreact on situations like this, where a Danish newspaper decides to run caricatures of the prophet Mohammed. Muslims need to learn that it's a part of the culture in this part of the world to use humour, satire, and irony in relation with religion,' said Ramadan, who teaches Islamic studies at the University of Oxford and forms a part of British PM Tony Blair's Task Force on better integration. 'My advice to Muslims would be: It doesn't mean that you need to accept it with all your heart. But let your mind form a critical opinion about it. I don't think 3000 Muslims should have walked in a demonstration through Copenhagen's streets. I think they should have quietly sent letters to the editor protesting the printing of the articles, and let that be it.' Ramadan, however, said Jyllands-Posten decision to print the cartoons had been wrong, as it prevented reciprocal respect between the two population groups. 'If there is to be a common ground for the future in the relationship between Muslims and Danes, we all need to show a certain wisdom. There hasn't been much wisdom, neither with the people who started the drawings nor the people who got 3000 Muslims to march in a demonstration in Copenhagen,' Ramadan said.

More unrest in Rosenhøj, Århus

Last night, disturbances again flared up in the Rosenhøj district of Århus after several days of quiet. Dustbins were set alight, shop windows smashed and there was one incidence of attempted arson. One 19 year old was arrested. Last week there were several evenings of disturbances in the area when young people took to the streets, causing general havoc and setting fire to a kindergarten and fast food restaurant. City officials attempted to calm the situation by engaging in dialogue with the young people involved, their parents and social workers, the police, teachers and housing association members. It seemed the plan had worked after the weekend passed peacefully.

11 Comments:

At November 11, 2005 3:39 PM, Blogger dewat said...

"What your newspaper has done is the same thing undemocratic Islamic government's do, when it comes to discussions about democracy."
This fundamental error is the problem ,there is no such thing as an "Islamic government". Theocracy is an oxymoron .Religion is the worship of a Deity not a form of government.A common theme in the "Muslim community" is humiliation and that someone else is responsible for it, get a clue people, one can say anything they want about me, my mother, my country,or my religion and none of it will matter, whether it be praise or condemnation, they are just words and worse there are opinions, the substance of illusion. People who are not free don't get the concept of free speech, instead they are imprisoned by their beliefs.

 
At November 11, 2005 4:48 PM, Blogger darwiniangirl said...

Iran has finally admitted it also plans the destruction of the Anglo-Saxon race:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20065

 
At November 11, 2005 6:24 PM, Blogger the adventuress said...

'If there is to be a common ground for the future in the relationship between Muslims and Danes, we all need to show a certain wisdom.

And there you have it, the problem in a nutshell. He divides the residents of Denmark into "Muslims and Danes." Whereas everybody who is a citizen of Denmark should consider themselves "Danes."

 
At November 11, 2005 6:25 PM, Blogger the adventuress said...

And he doesn't understand why the newspaper published the cartoons. He doesn't understand the concept of freedom of speech and how precious it is to the Western people.

In asking for "wisdom", he asks for submission to Islam. Nothing new in that, but it demonstrates in a nutshell how foolish are the "intellectuals" who think that Tariq Ramadan is some kind of Islamic reformer. He isn't.

 
At November 11, 2005 7:31 PM, Blogger Jude the Obscure said...

'What your newspaper has done is the same thing undemocratic Islamic governments do...'

there is also no such thing as a democratic Islamic government so I fail to see how a comparison can be made

darwiniangirl - link no longer exists.

I'm off to find out which branches of philosophy Tariq Ramadan studied. I'm betting it is Islamic Studies - which is theology, not philosophy.

 
At November 11, 2005 7:59 PM, Blogger Jude the Obscure said...

Tariq Ramadan - MA in Philosophy and specialising in Nietzsche, (have I spelt it correctly?) MA in French Lit. Neither of these qualifications give him authority to teach in a university. Masters' Degrees are a dime a dozen.

PhD in Islamic Studies.

 
At November 11, 2005 8:17 PM, Blogger the adventuress said...

jude,

He's the grandson of the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood. His brother Hani Ramadan, also some sort of academic, has run into trouble in Switzerland for refusing to denounce stoning people to death.

He's a 100 percent, full-on Taqqiyah specialist, and very, very dangerous.

 
At November 11, 2005 9:38 PM, Blogger nunicorn said...

test

 
At November 12, 2005 11:07 AM, Blogger ElCid2004 said...

The MSM don't mention these riots in Arhus and Kobnhavn, it is like Sverige and Danmark are countries very far away or something.

 
At November 12, 2005 11:09 AM, Blogger ElCid2004 said...

It is as if Danmark and Sverige are far away countries on a different continent. The MSM are silent when it comes to the riots and racial tensions in these countries. I hate that, it's pure censorship!

 
At December 20, 2005 7:14 AM, Blogger abu said...

"there is also no such thing as a democratic Islamic government so I fail to see how a comparison can be made"

democratic Islamic Government==> pls check on MALAYSIA

 

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