Friday, November 11, 2005

Violence part of life for girls in French suburbs

Violence part of life for girls in French suburbs

Even before the riots, Ophelia, 16, used to run home from school every day because she was afraid of being attacked in the maze of high-rise buildings in her suburb northeast of Paris. A series of gang rapes in these bleak housing estates shocked France a few years ago. In 2002, a 17-year-old girl was set alight by an 18-year-old boy as his friends stood by. Violence against and pressure on women is part of daily life in the suburbs, where boys can dictate how girls should dress. "You have to behave like a guy and look like a guy. If you wear a skirt, you get into immediate trouble. You're a slut," says Sandra, wearing a baggy sweatshirt and jeans. Pressure is mounting for Muslim women to wear veils. Forced marriages that snatch them from college and career -- where they do much better than their male schoolmates -- are on the rise. The support group "Ni Putes, Ni Soumises" ("Neither Whores nor Submissives") says the number of forced marriages has risen in recent years, with roughly 70,000 girls pressured into unwanted relationships each year in France.

France must act to prevent anti-Moslem backlash, says Euro MP


'We must move away from tolerance to respect for other cultures and religions,' Winkler said, urging E.U. governments to step up efforts to integrate minorities into society. The EUMC report calls for active involvement of Moslem communities in institutionalised procedures of policy-making. Police services should provide support to victims of racist crimes and governments should monitor progress of social inclusion, it concluded.

Russia offers football thugs to France

A Russian politician has offered to send the country's violent football thugs to France to sort out the rioters. Far right politician Vladimir Zhirinovsky says he already has hundreds of volunteers many with special forces training. In a telegram sent to France, Zhirinovsky, who is also Deputy Speaker of the Duma, said: "We are ready with volunteer units of football fans and activists who have served in military combat hot spots. "I am convinced that our initiative would restore total order and calm the rioting within 48 hours."

8 Comments:

At November 11, 2005 3:12 AM, Blogger reliapundit said...

i agree that multiculturalism is a main culprit, as it is multiculturalism which let immigrants off the hook for not assimilating.

now, if you demand assimilation, too many people think your a neanderthal.

here's the sad thing - and Seinfeld said it best about the French:

"They fought harder to keep euroDisney out than they did to keep the NAZIS out!"

The French fight harder to protect their French culture from American pop culture than they have the insidious attack from within, from the Muslims.

If it is true that 50% of the french in cities undeer the age 25 are Muslim, then perhaps it is too late already.

Buit I sure wish that Chirac and /or Villepin would resign so Sarkozy could at least give the French a fighting chance!

Love the blog!

 
At November 11, 2005 3:57 AM, Blogger tcobb said...

Perhaps it would be better in the long run for the French MP to exhort the Muslim community to change THEIR ways in order to avoid an anti-Muslim backlash.

 
At November 11, 2005 7:01 AM, Blogger John Sobieski said...

reliaapundit said - If it is true that 50% of the french in cities undeer the age 25 are Muslim, then perhaps it is too late already.

I agree, IF that is true, then France is lost. It is too late.

I think LA is over 50% hispanic now, but they don't want everyone to become hispanic and many of them do not want to assimilate.

What this all proves is that the assumption, which I have never believed, that immigration is necessary is a myth.

Let's look at Japan, which has strict immigration control. They do allow extended work visas since they are aging, like Europe, but, after 15 years of recession after their bubble, are now entering a bull run. Why? They have focused on technology, especially for an aging population, they have begun to aggrssively subsidize child rearing, but most important of all, they have kept their culture. Japan did not implode, and will not go extinct.

Their goal is a static population. What is wrong with this? I see nothing wrong with this.

 
At November 11, 2005 7:02 AM, Blogger John Sobieski said...

reliaapundit said - If it is true that 50% of the french in cities undeer the age 25 are Muslim, then perhaps it is too late already.

I agree, IF that is true, then France is lost. It is too late.

I think LA is over 50% hispanic now, but they don't want everyone to become hispanic and many of them do not want to assimilate.

What this all proves is that the assumption, which I have never believed, that immigration is necessary is a myth.

Let's look at Japan, which has strict immigration control. They do allow extended work visas since they are aging, like Europe, but, after 15 years of recession after their bubble, are now entering a bull run. Why? They have focused on technology, especially for an aging population, they have begun to aggrssively subsidize child rearing, but most important of all, they have kept their culture. Japan did not implode, and will not go extinct.

Their goal is a static population. What is wrong with this? I see nothing wrong with this.

 
At November 11, 2005 2:53 PM, Blogger Snouck said...

France is not lost. The French still have children even if it is few. They just have to remove these poor and often unemployed bastards from their territory which will hurt only a few low-productivity sectors of their economy.

The problem is that eyes first have to be opened and than an ideology has to be formed, before anything can happen. But this is happening now as we speak.

Read more at:

Snouck
http://snouck.blogspot.com

 
At November 11, 2005 8:16 PM, Blogger Eleanor © said...

It is amazing that France, or any society, should have to demand that immigrants follow the law and integrate into that society. Immigrants are meant to become assets to the community.

If immigrants refuse to do so, they should be deported. Those that have taken the oath of citizenships should be stripped of that honor and returned to the country of origin. Children of those same immigrants should return with their parents and rioting children that are citizens must be jailed and a way to deport them should be found as these have become detriments rather than assets.

 
At November 11, 2005 10:58 PM, Blogger Jeff said...

Fjordman:

I assume you've seen this article before, but just in case you haven't: The New French Revolution

 
At November 14, 2005 4:52 PM, Blogger oskar said...

@ realpundit:
I guess you're ignorant of French integration policy, but, for your information, the French integration policy is probably as far from multiculturalism as you can get anywhere in Europe or North America (the big multiculturalists are rather countries like the US, UK, Netherlands and Sweden). France has no positive discrimination or special programs or incentives or anything for minorities of any kind. State and religion are completely separate (eg ban on headscarfs in public schools).

@ snouck:
Due to generous benefits to families and public support for childcare, France has the highest birthrate in western Europe, 12,2 births per 1000 population. This is even higher than for caucasian women in the US (around 11). After France, the west European countries with the highest birthrates are the Scandinavian countries while countries (around 11 birth per 1000 pop.) while countries like Spain, Austria, Germany and Italy, where women are basically expected to give up their careers if they have children, are at the bottom.

 

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