Wednesday, November 23, 2005

East Asia allies doubt U.S. could win war with China

Yes, I do know that Ishihara is a nationalist, not to mention one of the most racist politicians I know of anywhere. But his views here are shared by quite a few in Asia. Some think that China's war against the USA has already begun, mainly through proxies such as North Korea and, increasingly, Iran, and quietly watching while Islamic terrorists wear down American military strength and resolve. Not to mention that they have huge stakes in the US economy, but that goes both ways, of course:

East Asia allies doubt U.S. could win war with China

The overwhelming assessment by Asian officials, diplomats and analysts is that the U.S. military simply cannot defeat China. It has been an assessment relayed to U.S. government officials over the past few months by countries such as Australia, Japan and South Korea. Most Asian officials have expressed their views privately. Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara has gone public, warning that the United States would lose any war with China. "In any case, if tension between the United States and China heightens, if each side pulls the trigger, though it may not be stretched to nuclear weapons, and the wider hostilities expand, I believe America cannot win as it has a civic society that must adhere to the value of respecting lives," Mr. Ishihara said. "Therefore, we need to consider other means to counter China," he said. "The step we should be taking against China, I believe, is economic containment." Asian allies of the United States are quietly preparing to bolster their militaries independent of Washington. So far, the Bush administration has been strongly opposed to an indigenous Japanese defense capability, fearing it would lead to the expulsion of the U.S. military presence from that country.

Japan ends 60-year military exclusion

JAPAN will once again have a "military" in name 60 years after the United States stripped it of the right to keep armed forces. It is the first revision of the post-World War II constitution. The draft, which has already been made public, was formally presented at the Liberal Democratic Party's 50th anniversary event yesterday. The move may raise tensions with neighbouring countries, which accuse Japan of not atoning for past aggression. Other than in name, Japan already has one of the world's best funded "militaries," devoting close to $60 billion to defence a year.

Cheap, Cheerful and Chinese?

China's overwhelming ambition is to become an economic superpower. Everything takes second place to this goal, not least the well-being of the people laboring toward it. Yet waves of willing workers continue to deluge the country's industrial regions. Here, in China, the corporations of the world have found a bottomless reservoir of cheap workers. Here they can operate largely unfettered by all those niggling social benefits: high wages, well-paid overtime, occupational health and safety regulations, maternity leave, free trade unions, and the right to strike. About 800 million Chinese live out in the rural areas, and an estimated one-sixth do not have work. That's why they bow to the fate of wage slavery for a few years -- in hopes of a brighter future. Few of them have electricity or running water in their villages back home. The abundance of cheap goods "Made in China" may well quicken the pulses of Western bargain hunters. But few consumers are aware of the price they will pay for this windfall: the loss of their own prosperity and, increasingly, of their own jobs.

'Second Wives' Are Back

A top prosecutor in Henan province was recently stripped of his post and Communist Party membership after investigators alleged that he embezzled $2 million to support his lavish lifestyle — and seven mistresses. "Everyone is saying, 'Behind every corrupt official, there must be at least one mistress,' " says Li Xinde, an anti-corruption activist. China's economic boom has led to a revival of the 2-millennium-old tradition of "golden canaries," so called because, like the showcase birds, mistresses here are often pampered, housed in love nests and taken out at the pleasure of their "masters." Concubines were status symbols in imperial China. After the Communists took power, they sought to root out such bourgeois evils, even as Chairman Mao Tse-tung reportedly kept a harem of peasant women into his old age. Now, mistresses have become a must-have for party officials, bureaucrats and businessmen. "We are in a commodity economy," says retired Shanghai University sociologist Liu Dalin. "Work, technology, love, beauty, power — it's all tradable."


At November 23, 2005 5:20 PM, Blogger bordergal said...

In any case, if tension between the United States and China heightens, if each side pulls the trigger, though it may not be stretched to nuclear weapons, and the wider hostilities expand, I believe America cannot win as it has a civic society that must adhere to the value of respecting lives," Mr. Ishihara said. "

Hiroshima? Nagasaki? How quickly we forget.

At November 23, 2005 6:46 PM, Blogger Hal said...

I'm sorry, but you don't understand. China will never fight us.

The neocons told me so. We are now friends who help each other economically--the Chinese by making everything, and us by consuming it. We are all friends now.

By letting our own industries die, by educatiing all the East Asians and Chinese professors, by sending all our factories overseas, we are creating a more efficient economic world in which all will prosper and live off milk and honey in perfect ease and contentment.

The neocons told me so, and they wouldn't lie.

By worring about Chinese trade rather than evil Muslim rulers, you show you are an evil Pat Buchananite, just another evil anti-Semite, America-Firster and racist.

You probably want to close our borders instead of letting the free flow of ewonderful, friendly workers from Mexican and all over the world wash over America and magically raise our standard of living.

You just don't understand that America's job is saving the world for Democracy (especially spending trillions to save those poor Democracy- and Capitalism-loving Muslims victimized by their evil governments).

So don't worry about the loss of your country's sovereignty and the extinction of your nation.

Your country will be better off once your overfed and spoiled children are gone and your country has replaced them with hungry Muslims.

You see, Muslims and Chinamen work harder, for less, and are therefore much more economically efficient.

And economic efficiency is Good.

So don't worry. Smile! Lay back and drink from this cup. Close you eyes. Rest easy. It will soon be over.

At November 23, 2005 7:42 PM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

Who wins a war with China depends on where the war is. China has little ability to project military power beyond neighboring countries. Their prime target, Taiwan, would be destroyed in an invasion, making it an economic basket case. Their best bet is economic hegemony.

At November 23, 2005 8:57 PM, Blogger Chip said...

China does realize nearly their entire economic boom - which allows their increased defense spending - is funded by the United States, don't they?

If China wants to commit national suicide, they've come to the right nation.

At November 23, 2005 11:10 PM, Blogger Cosmophant said...

Bordergal: Hiroshima? Nagasaki? How quickly we forget.

Thank you Bordergal for demonstrating the point of Mr Ishihara so well.

99% of the Westerners if they had a time-machine and were able to correct an error made in WWII, would take back Hiroshima 1945 before Munich 1938.

This is rather amazing when you think of it.

At November 24, 2005 12:15 AM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

I think what Chip is saying is that if Wal-Mart quit buying goods from China, the Chinese economy would collapse.

At November 24, 2005 4:43 AM, Blogger Chip said...

Actually, China can commit suicide by America in a number of ways if they choose to do so.


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