Tuesday, August 23, 2005

Islamic regime to submerge Iran's root



The Islamic regime is to submerge part of Iran's past in a shameful historical cleansing, in order to avoid facing more nationalistic problems with future generations. The construction of a very controversial dam project is near completion and soon, the tomb of "Cyrus the Great" and "Persepolis" would be submerged under water. Cyrus the Great (580-529 BC) (known as Kourosh in Persian; Kouros in Greek; Kores in Hebrew) was the first Achaemenian Emperor and founder of Iran, who issued a decree on his aims and policies, later hailed as his charter of the rights of nations. Inscribed on a clay cylinder, this is known to be the first declaration of Human Rights, and is now kept at the British Museum. A replica of this is also at the United Nations in New York. It's believed that the Islamic regime's decision to destroy Cyrus' tomb is due to clerics' fear of what he did represent and the increase of nationalistic sentiments among Iranians. These fears have been boosted as more Iranians are turning from Islam and especially following the news on the future release of a British-US movie on the life of Cyrus the Great. The un-Iranian Islamic regime and its propaganda machine have already labeled the movie as a US-Zionist conspiracy intending to undermine Islam. The independent 80 million dollars budget movie is to be made outside Iran. The dogmatic Islamist clerics are considering as pagan anything related to Iran of before the Islamic invasion of 14 centuries ago and a direct threat to their backwarded and barbarian ideology. The Islamists have shown, at several occasions,, their animosity about ancient Iran and are considering it as something 'dirty' while ancient Iran was monotheist and was following Zoroaster guidances of "Good Thought, Good Deed, Good Speak". No slavery was existing in Iran of that time, while Arab conquerors were killing or taking as slave all those who were not accepting the Islamic religion. Many theologists believe that the Abrahamic religions are all inspired from Zoroastrianism. It's to note that the Islamic republic regime is usurping Iran's chair at the UN and it's a member of UNESCO.

13 Comments:

At August 23, 2005 7:35 AM, Blogger ik said...

The weakest spot in the world of Islam is Iran. They have strong memories of their preislamic past and would gladly return to it (huge segments of Iranian society)

Familiarity breeds contempt. Of all the people who know the Arabs the Persians know the Arabs VERY WELL - and they have contempt for Arabs and their religion. (Similarly of all the people on the planet the ones most familiar with the British were the Irish and they were the ones least impressed by the British and they never held the British in awe like people in faraway lands)

The Mullahs are terrified not of the US or Israel - but the "sons of Zoroaster". Even today if given a chance all the educated Iranians would run out of Islam.

The problem is that the West is attached to Christianity and all attempts to approach the Iranians in the US are by trying to convert them to Christianity. The right approach would be to enable mass conversions of the Iranians in the West to Zoroastrianism which would almost immediately finish the Mullahs/Islam off in Iran - WITHOUT ANY EXTERNAL WAR!
Since the religion is still alive in India it would be VERY EASY TO PULL IT OFF.

One thousand years ago the Parsis (Persians) who did not want to convert landed in India on ships on the West Coast in Gujarat. The Raja showed them a bowl filled with milk (in effect telling them that there was no space for them). They responded by pouring some sugar in the milk (in effect telling that they would assimilate and enrich the culture)

They kept their religion and adopted the Gujarati language. To this day there has NEVER been any persecution of Parsis in India. The Parsis are among he richest / most cultured community in India.

They have made HUGE contributions to India. the only problem is that they do not accept any Parsi marrying outside their community so they are slowly dying out.

Freddie Mercury of Queen (Last name 'balsara - meaning the element mercury in Sanskrit) is Parsi.
The largest Industrial house in India is Tata who are Parsi.

A similar approach would wean the Kurds away from Islam - since they still proudly remember their Yazidi religion before they got converted to Islam)

In both the Iranian and Kurd cases the ethnic boundaries perfectly match up and culd be fruitfully utilized if the west stopped trying to convert everybody to Christianity.

I hope I have not offended anyone (especially Christians - I have nothing against them). - but this is really the BEST possible approach that has a good chance of working out.

Even today the easiest way to recognize a "good" persian is to check up how they name their children (whether they give Zoroastrian names or Arabic names)

http://adaniel.tripod.com/parsi.htm
http://www.culturopedia.com/Religions/zoroastrianism.html

 
At August 23, 2005 8:31 AM, Blogger RobertinArabia said...

On a previous visit to the Kingdom, the Saudi Air Force destroyed a natural rock formation that looked like a bird.

 
At August 23, 2005 12:34 PM, Blogger sissyblue said...

ik, Great blog comment. Very interesting stuff. The only thing I disagree with is your insinuation that the west is trying to forcefully convert everyone to Christianity in Iran.

I don't think the Christians have that much freedom in Iran. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't proselytizing carry a death penalty in Iran?

 
At August 23, 2005 4:16 PM, Blogger erp said...

ik. The problem is the draconian control that Islam demands over the life of its adherents. It just can't work in the modern world and I predict the next revolution will be among the younger generation in Saudi Arabia and the other oil rich gulf countries and from there spread out to the rest of the Muslim countries.

Communications being what they are, it's ludicrous to think rich young people will continue to observe arbitrary rules laid down by an ignorant, bloodthirsty tyrant in the 7th century. All that's needed is a charismatic leader and they'll be on their way.

Islam can work only if takes its place among the other religions of the world. Muslims, like Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. must be able to choose whether or not they wish to be fundamentalist in their observance of their faith.

I agree that Christian missionaries have done far more damage than good.

 
At August 23, 2005 7:24 PM, Blogger nalymov said...

I am afraid the dam is physically impossible there (not enough water and the place is a raised plateau).
I sympathize with these students but the allegation is nonsensical.

 
At August 23, 2005 7:36 PM, Blogger Jude the Obscure said...

I also agree with erp and ik but would go further and say that Christian missionaries are not an asset anywhere.

 
At August 23, 2005 8:49 PM, Blogger sissyblue said...

Erp and Jude,

You are assuming Christianity is untrue. If it's true, then they've done their "hearers" the greatest possible good.

If you're referring to nasty things that people who claimed they were Christians did, then their actions were not backed up by the New Testament, and that's easy enough to verify in today's world (in most countries).

Of course Christians prior to the Reformation were not allowed to read the Bible (and that's a whole other subject), and therefore can't really be blamed for doing stupid things as directed by evil people.

There are always going to be manipulative people who use religion to their advantage; however, in this day and age, we have access to the books of the various religions and really can't claim ignorance anymore.

:>)

 
At August 24, 2005 2:05 AM, Blogger Runnymede1215 said...

Excellent comment, ik, a real eye opener!

erp wrote:
"I predict the next revolution will be among the younger generation in Saudi Arabia and the other oil rich gulf countries"

I had the impression that the younger generations in for example Saudi Arabia was unfortunately more into islamism than the older ones.

45 % of the Saudi population is under 15 years old, and the lack of life opportunities in this extremely corrupt society, together with the government sponsored islamist propaganda makes islamism, so similar to leftism, the ideal platform for young people to oppose the ruling elite.

Lot's of petrodollars has been spent on education, that together with a rapid urbanization have resulted in failed expectations of upward social mobility, a breeding ground for any fascist ideology.

Lot's of young people with nothing to do except getting obsessed by radical Islam.

Inside Saudi Arabia

Radicalism: Is the Devil in the Demographics

""Young people want to add a meaning to their lives, politically. And somebody is going to organize them," said John Zogby, a Lebanese-American pollster who has surveyed Muslims around the world. "What is clear is that the Islamists are getting to them first. The Islamists have the energy, a voice, a message." In Kuwait, more young Arabs embrace return to conservative Islam

So I really can't see we should build our hopes too much on the young arabs.

FOMI, a swedish forum against islamization.

 
At August 24, 2005 2:06 AM, Blogger Jude the Obscure said...

Sissyblue - I'm referring to the nasty things people calling themselves Christians have done, including the thousands of Catholic priests who abused their positions of privilege.

 
At August 24, 2005 2:19 AM, Blogger sissyblue said...

Ahhhh,,, All I can say is they were never backed up by the "book". That's the difference, and we all have access to books now, so when they do those things we can recognize them for the scumbags they are. It's a lot more difficult to play their tricks in the information age.

 
At August 24, 2005 8:40 AM, Blogger ik said...

sissyblue,

Sorry if I did not make myself clear - I meant Iranian immigrants IN the WEST NOT in Iran
http://www.prnewsnow.com/PR%20News%20Releases/Religion/Iranian%20Christian%20Church%20Holds%20Dedication%20of%20the%20Largest%20Iranian%20Bay%20Area%20Christian%20Church%20Facility%20on%20Sunday%20June%2026%20in%20Sunnyvale%20Calif

There are at least a million Iranians in the Los Angeles area (they call it Tehrangeles) - they broadcast satellite TV,radio,internet radio etc. directly into Iran all the time.

Also here is Shaul Mofaz (Israeli defence minister who is Iranian talking to callers from Iran)
http://www.strategypage.com/messageboards/messages/34-604.asp

excerpts
"One caller from a city in central Iran asked when Israel and the Jews would finally repay their historical debt to Cyrus the Great and rescue the Iranian people from the dread ayatollahs"
"The gap between regime and people was dramatic. A lot of this sympathy is born of the Iranian people’s historic resentment of their Islamic rulers and the Arabs, who invaded their country 1,400 years ago, destroyed Iranian culture and forced the populace to embrace Islam."

Here is an interview with a Kurdish general
http://www.epic-usa.org/Default.aspx?tabid=607

On section 8 here is a quote
"The [Saddam] regime killed 182,000 people in the Anfal campaign and destroyed more than 5,000 villages,'' Rostam declared, ''and no Muslim cleric said anything.'' Voicing a frequent Kurdish refrain, he mourned the loss of the Kurds' pre-Islamic religion. ''Our original religion was Yazidi, and they came by the sword to make us Muslims,'' he said. Then he added, ''We should replace mosques with discotheques.''

 
At August 24, 2005 12:55 PM, Blogger sissyblue said...

ik,

"One caller from a city in central Iran asked when Israel and the Jews would finally repay their historical debt to Cyrus the Great and rescue the Iranian people from the dread ayatollahs"

That is PRICELESS! Thanks for sharing!!!! ::) :>) :>) I'm still smiling at the irony....

I've heard there isn't anyone in in Egypt with DNA matching that of the mummies (obviously not exactly, but rather showing same ancestors). It's all Arab DNA. Talk about a disaster, Islam, the great SATAN!

 
At August 25, 2005 4:08 PM, Blogger PD111 said...

IRAN PREZ: DEMOCRACY? NEVER!

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/52420.htm

This is a good article on Iran and its islamic aspirations.

 

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