Monday, August 08, 2005

Do we need God?

Do we need God? I am not a religious person, and I used to be almost hostile of Christianity. My views have slowly softened quite a lot, especially after I started reading about Islam. I notice Christianity is spreading in China at a time the country is booming (the same for South Korea), and is weak in Europe, a continent and a civilization that seems to be on its deathbed. Tiny, Jewish Israel has managed to stave off repeated Islamic attacks for decades. I remember an article I posted before:

The Spiritual Malaise That Haunts Europe

Europe is depopulating itself in numbers greater than at any time since the Black Death of the 14th century. When an entire continent, healthier, wealthier and more secure than ever before, fails to create the human future in the most elemental sense — by creating the next generation — something serious is afoot. Demographic vacuums don't stay vacuums; they get filled — in Europe's case, by Islamic immigrants. Europe's effort to create a tolerant, civil, democratic civilization by cutting itself off from one of that civilization's sources — Jewish and Christian convictions about the dignity of the person — is likely to fail.

Is our lack of religion the reason for our indecisiveness and difficulty in seeing right from wrong?


At August 08, 2005 9:08 PM, Blogger Baron Bodissey said...

European countries have generally had "official" Christian religions, maintained and funded by the state. This means that when people lose respect for the state, religion suffers, too. When I lived in England many years ago I noticed the contempt with which the average person viewed the Church of England.

In America, Christianity remains strong because of its separation from the state. And Christianity in China, of course, is the enemy of the dictatorial regime, which helps it to flourish.

At August 09, 2005 1:28 AM, Blogger Runnymede1215 said...

No, I can't see any importance in religion, the fact that you and most other sensible people aren't aggressive about christianity anymore is simply because it's becoming less threatening and less important in society.

I guess one of the biggest reasons we europeans don't procreate as we should, and certainly would like to, is that our societies are designed to create the maximum amount of taxes for our governements, so they can continue bribing us with our own money, and support "the poor" as our leftist media demands.

Once such policies have affected the demographic profile so that most people are old or middle age, the older groups in society have so much "voting power" that any changes inte the tax pressure becomes even more difficult, and the young people who could raise families have to wait even more, just to keep working to pay for other peoples pensions.

The high taxes also destroys the possibility for most young professionals to hire competent household help to cope with family and professional life.

When you work and make money, it's your money, not the governement's

Just let people keep their money, I would strongly suspect that most of them would use it to raise healthy families. After all, that's the way evolution is supposed to work.

Please visit Forum mot Islamisering, a swedish forum against islamization

At August 09, 2005 1:49 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

DP111: I meant as something you are willing to believe in and fight for. I'm not sure I need it. Fighting for the freedom of my children is enough. But I do see that maybe our spirits have become weakened by abandoning religion.

At August 09, 2005 2:01 AM, Blogger Baron Bodissey said...

DP111 -- you've hung around Gates of Vienna enough, so you may well know how Dymphna and I feel about the Anglican/Episcopal church.

My own personal limit is that I will leave it if (when) it votes to divest from Israel. That will be the final straw. It will not change my religious beliefs, but I will no longer in good conscience be able to send my money to ECUSA.

At August 09, 2005 5:15 AM, Blogger Oscar in Kansas said...

Question: Is our lack of religion the reason for our indecisiveness and difficulty in seeing right from wrong?

Answer: Yes.

At August 09, 2005 10:18 AM, Blogger Sam Charles Norton said...

The conflict is undoubtedly a spiritual one, and one of the things which the <Islamists gain strength from is our perceived spiritual malaise. This war won't be won with guns (at least, not with guns alone).

So yes, I think we need God. But you might expect me to say that :O)


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