Sunday, May 01, 2005

Pedophilia more acceptable in warm countries?

Muslims try to argue that Muhammad was not a pedophile although he had sex with a child:

It should be noted that in the hot regions, it’s normal for a girl to attain maturity at a very early age. Thus the case is totally different from that which does exist in the cold regions where a girl does not attain puberty before 21 [Physicians maintain that the age of puberty in the hot regions normally ranges from 9 to 16]. At all rates, it should be stressed that the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, on marrying `Aisha, never aimed at fulfilling a lust or satisfying a desire; rather, his aim was to strengthen his relation with the most beloved Companion of his.

7 Comments:

At May 01, 2005 9:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh-huh. Right.

 
At May 01, 2005 9:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You got a link?

 
At May 01, 2005 9:59 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

The link is always included in the headline, if not in the post itself.

 
At May 02, 2005 1:24 AM, Blogger Runnymede1215 said...

Well, little Aisha played with dolls at the age when Muhammed had sex with her, dolls were forbidden for those who hade reached puberty:

From Sahih Muslim:

2b. "(3310) ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old."

(3311) ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married here when she was seven years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and here dolls were with her: and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old." Sahih Muslim vol.2:3310,3311 p.716.

2c. "(5981) ’A’isha reported that she used to play with dolls in the presence of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him), whereas Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent them to her.


In english, isn't a grown man who has had sex with a nine year old child a pedophile? So it must be correct for us to call him a pedophile?

I have an article in Swedish about it Muhammed var pedofil, feel free to discuss islam in Swedish at FOMI

 
At May 02, 2005 5:18 AM, Blogger Jude the Obscure said...

This is just silliness. (Females in hot climates reach puberty from 9 - 16 and in cold climates when they are 21.) Females everywhere begin menarche when they have reached their adult height and weight. Usually it is between 12 and 16 now, irrespective of where they live. It would be most unusual for a 9 year old to reach menarche in any climate no matter what 'physicians' said. Also, what sort of companion would a 9 yr old make for a man 50 years her senior? Did they spend their private hours discussing the finer points of theology? I think not.

 
At May 02, 2005 7:07 PM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

"Thus the case is totally different from that which does exist in the cold regions where a girl does not attain puberty before 21 [Physicians maintain that the age of puberty in the hot regions normally ranges from 9 to 16]."

Must be Islamic physicians -- no science required.

 
At May 17, 2005 1:25 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm hardly an apologist for Islam, but I would like to point out that the article clearly states that the marriage was not consummated until the girl "had reached maturity". Therefore, this is not pedophilia.

It's quite common in many countries, not just Muslim ones, for couples to be "married" before one or both is sexually mature and I don't see anything wrong with that as long as they aren't having sex with a minor!

 

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