Tuesday, September 13, 2005

Norway: Challenges abound for new Government

The Socialist Left party, which started its election campaigns in the Pakistani countryside and thinks that the USA is the greatest threat to world peace (one of its members has suggested giving the Nobel Peace Prize to Cuba's Fidel Castro), will now be part of our cabinet:

Challenges abound for Jens

Jens Stoltenberg and his new government partners, the Center Party and the Socialist Left, have a long list of issues to resolve in order to put forward a united front as a ruling government coalition. They've already agreed to disagree on whether Norway should join the European Union. Stoltenberg and his Labour Party (Arbeiderpartiet) have some clear advantages, however. They will lead the coalition from a position of relative strength, after winning more than 60 seats in Parliament and 32.7 percent of the vote. That indicates that Labour, which started adopting a more moderate brand of politics in the 1990s, likely won't be making any major radical turns, even though it will be cooperating with the Socialist Left (SV), known for a much more left-wing brand of socialist politics. SV, however, was relatively battered at the polls and heads into a government coalition with just 8.7 percent of voter support and a major loss of seats in Parliament.

Hagen savours major victory

Carl I Hagen has for years been the proverbial Rodney Dangerfield of Norwegian politics, never getting any respect. Now, with 22.1 percent of the vote and a big increase in parliamentary representation, he expects that to change. Hagen took the stage at his party's election watch meeting Monday night to the tunes of "We are the champions," clearly relishing the biggest victory his relatively right-wing Progress Party (Fremskrittspartiet) has ever scored with liberal Norwegian voters. He warmly thanked his supporters for making the Progress Party "the leading opposition party" in Parliament and "the biggest non-socialist party" of them all.

Norway's Red-Green alliance set to oust government

Prime Minister Kjell Magne Bondevik said he did "not have a good answer" as to why Norwegians ditched him during an economic boom and after U.N. surveys rated Norway the best country in the world in which to live every year since he took power in 2001. Norway is the third largest oil exporter after Saudi Arabia and Russia, making its 4.6 million people among the wealthiest in the world. Carl Hagen said that he expected his party to lead the opposition in the next four years. Elsewhere in Scandinavia, the Danish People's Party has pushed through tighter laws for asylum seekers and immigrants. "You have laid the basis for a new dream, that the Progress Party will be what the Labour Party was in the previous century," Hagen told jubilant supporters. Hassan Abdillahi, a 41-year-old of Somali origin, was happy that the center left looked like defeating the right and keeping Hagen away from power. Its allies in government would be the rural Center Party and the Socialist Left, which calls the United States the "greatest threat to world peace" and is against Norway's NATO membership.


At September 13, 2005 1:24 PM, Blogger JimmyNewc said...

A Red-Green Coalition? Well if you were worried before Fjordman you should be more worried now. Sounds like a carnival of idiots.

It seems Norway has been corrupted by easy money. It's like watching an episode of the Osbournes or more fittingly The Beverly Hillbillies. Easy money and dumb assed behaviour seem to go hand in hand.

And all this carry on about Norway being "The Best Country in the World" really is nonsense. People really should leave that alone. OK maybe it's a little fun and Norway is not bad but taking it too seriously really is unbecoming and provincial-like.

At September 13, 2005 1:30 PM, Blogger Herr Unswedenizer said...

the Progress Party "the leading opposition party"

Not only is PP now the biggest opposition party (22.1%), bigger than Höyre (14.1%), but also bigger than Höyre plus KRF together. And remember then that Höyre + KRF were double the size of PP in the last election!

So what's happening here? As I see it, Höyre and KRF have a really fundamental problem. You see, the more they convince the Norwegian people that the are right, the more they convince them to vore for the other block. This since a Höyre/KRF government can only exist with the support of PP (and the true demarcation line in Norwegian politics goes between Höyre and PP)

There was of course no way to sustain the absurd position of dhimmi right-wing of Höyre etc. The result of this election has been the one of polarization between two clear positions. And with the socialists in government and PP as the major opposition party this process of polarization can only be futher enhanced.

So to me this is not such a bad result after all. Norway continues to be far away from Sweden, and closing up on Denmark. But yes, we'd all wished that it hadn't all been this very slow.

The difference in Denmark was that the former "dhimmi right-wing" parties gave up on being dhimmis and joined the party corresponding to PP in much of their discourse. If the result of this election won't teach the Norwegian dhimmi right-wing the lesson, than nothing will.

The nice thing in Denmark was how this change of the scene made the ritual slaughter of the social democrats possible. In an environment of truly open debate the lies and hipocracy of the social democrats are easily crushed. I cannot imagine any true right-winger (or true humanist for that sake) that does not really want to see this happening.

We'll still have to see about the Norwegian "conservatives"...

And poor Sweden does not even have a party as PP. It feels like we are a decade behind in development.

At September 13, 2005 2:07 PM, Blogger Kledo said...

With respect to the results published on the Dagsavisen's webpage the forthcoming coaliton got few votes than the current one + Progress Party! :)

"rightwing" block: 1.278.443
"leftwing" block: 1.257.842

At September 13, 2005 2:13 PM, Blogger Herr Unswedenizer said...


Maybe Michael Moore helped them steal the election?

At September 13, 2005 2:42 PM, Blogger Kledo said...

Herr unswedenizer,

maybe :-).

Moreover I agree with your conclusion that this is not bad result after all. The emptiness of Christian Democrats and Conservatives was revealed and punished. And this is far better than their possible narrow win and continuation of their hypocrital politics based on gouging on Progress Party.

At September 13, 2005 3:50 PM, Blogger Herr Unswedenizer said...

Kledo:The emptiness of Christian Democrats and Conservatives was revealed and punished.

Yes this is good. However, only the future will tell how good. If it makes the Conservatives leave their path of emptiness (I do not have so much hope for the Christian Democrats in Norway) and fundamentally change their attitude, as it happened in Denmark, then this will turn out to be really good.

Had the centre-right block won this election, the Conservatives would have been very busy proving the difference between them and the Progress Party. Now, this result gives them a better opportunity to fundamentally change. Already they must have had considered this strategy. They have already seen what happened in Denmark. But they chose the wrong path this time, the path of cowardness. My belief is that they are not completely stupid, and have some sense of survival, and that they will therefore change. Anyway, he who lives will see. And in any case it's sure to be happening painfully slow.

And the good thing of a socialist government is of course that it will display the absurdity of dhimmitude much clearer. Maybe this time even the Norwegians will understand.

At September 13, 2005 4:50 PM, Blogger Seixon said...

The Progress Party's immense increase of 7.4% is due to opposition to Bondevik within the center-right block. Bondevik's party lost 5.6% since 2001, and the Conservative Party lost 7.1% for supporting him as prime minister candidate.

I'd imagine that the Christian People's Party lost their votes to Labor, while the Conservative Party lost theirs to the Progress Party.

In summary: the center-right block screwed themselves over by pinning up Bondevik as their prime minister candidate for the next four years. This while ignoring that most of the country did not want this, and that they would not be able to pull this off with the Progress Party looking to take out Bondevik.

At September 13, 2005 5:57 PM, Blogger Herr Unswedenizer said...


In your blog you say that you support the Liberal Party. Do you figure that it is possible that the Liberal Party of Norway would be able to walk the same path as its sister party in Denmark (with the same name, Venstre, Left Party), and adopt major parts of the discourse from the anti-establishment party of the country (FrP and DFP respectively)?

Is the Liberal Party in Norway pro-American, anti-Socialist, pro-Norway, anti-Jihad enough to take the same brave step as its sister party in Denmark?

If that is the case it would be very important for Norwegian politics. I do not trust the Christian Democrats much here, and it probably won't be enough with a change just in the Conservative party.

Come to think of it, the little debate that there is in Sweden about problems stemming from immigration and jihadism, is mainly initiated by the Liberal Party. (It still doesn't put them in any better position than the conservatives of Norway, but everything is relative...)

So at least in Northen Europe liberals more and more wake up to realize the fundamental liberal wisdom of "not tolerating intolerance".

So what do you think of the Liberal Party in Norway, with regards to this? I'm sorry to say, but I know nothing about this party.


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