Wednesday, June 15, 2005

Jihad in Swedish Schools

Even more news from Sweden's third largest city, Malmö, the evolving tragedy of failed immigration policies and runaway crime rates. Set to become the first major Scandinavian city with a Muslim majority a few years from now, it is the horror story in the ongoing collapse of Swedish society. The homes of the politicians in charge are shot at by neo-Nazis. While the authorities have even started experimenting with all-Arabic preschool classes paid for by the Swedish state, nothing seems to stop the chaos from spreading in Malmö's schools, or indeed in other urban areas in Sweden. En dansker i Sverige recently wrote about a high school teacher in Malmö, Sweden, who discovered that about a dozen Arab students were laughing and shouting "Allahu Akbar!" while watching a DVD of infidel hostages being beheaded in Iraq. The headmaster didn't think the incident was such a big deal. At least 139 schools in Sweden suffered arson attacks during 2002 alone. Such as an incident in Malmö, where three schools were put on fire during one night. "Teenage boys" are suspected to behind the arson. Björn Vinberg from the fire department in Kroksbäck in the Malmö area says it's humiliating and degrading to put out fires again and again in the same immigrant areas, with school kids laughing at them and lighting a new one just afterwards. His colleagues have been to the same place no less than twenty times, all totally unnecessary. The Swedish Radio programme 'Kaliber' reported on Sunday that "almost all" Islamic schools and congregations in Sweden have contacted potential sponsors in Saudi Arabia. Many of these Saudi foundations ask for influence in return. However, an expert thinks the chances are slight that violent organisations will gain a foothold in Sweden's muslim communities. Meanwhile, concern is raised over how racist Swedes are.

Goodbye, Sweden. It was nice knowing you.

Schools unsafe

Violence and threats pose such a big problem in high schools in Malmö, that the local school board wants to install surveillance cameras and security guards in the buildings. The plans, which are to be carried out next fall, include tougher control of students’ comings and goings, and equipping school staff with security buttons, so that they can alert security guards if they are attacked. The city’s education director Matz Nilsson said unruly and aggressive students had become a more common sight in the high schools of Malmö, the home of some of Scandinavia’s biggest and roughest slums. ‘Schools must have their grounds under control,’ he said. ‘We must establish receptions to control who enters and leaves school buildings.’ ‘There is no way around it, we must have camera surveillance,’ said Kay Nilsson, the school board’s security chief. ‘We’ll install them in areas where there aren’t employees all the time, like in the corridors and the locker rooms.’ School officials said both violence and illegal drug abuse had increased among Malmö’s high school students in recent years. Student representatives said they were ambiguous about the tougher security measures. ‘School should be open to everybody,’ said Arijana Cehic, a student in Malmö Latin School. ‘It’s going to feel like we’re in prison and nobody can come and visit. We like visiting our friends in other schools. Linus Hulterström at the Jörgen Kocks High School, however, said the schools needed more safety measures. ‘Many people come here just to sell drugs,’ he said. It happens out in the open.’ Malmö’s high school reported 125 students to the police last year, compared with 71 in 2003.

20 Comments:

At June 15, 2005 7:47 PM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

To Sweden:

Welcome to the third world! Would the last "real" Swede to give in to the multicultural agenda please turn out the lights on your way to hell?

 
At June 15, 2005 7:55 PM, Blogger The Eye of Oden said...

Don't count us out yet. Soon the time will come to vote with a bullet.

 
At June 15, 2005 8:24 PM, Blogger Fjordman said...

Oden: You almost sound as is you want that to happen. Sadly, you may be right. It is now so late for Sweden that I'm not sure this will end peacefully. I dread to think how the situation will be there in 2015 - 2020 if people don't wake up soon.

 
At June 15, 2005 9:28 PM, Blogger The Eye of Oden said...

Fjordmannen. I know what my enemies are capable of. I also fear it will come to that. But I am prepared my friend.

 
At June 15, 2005 10:37 PM, Blogger Rune said...

Yes. It’s very awful it all. I have to say, because for all the differences I do find Sweden to be the key nation of Scandinavia.

Best of luck eye of Odin.

 
At June 16, 2005 12:28 AM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

eye of Oden, I don't know if you are familiar with the following but it may be of interest to you:

"It is in vain, sir, to extentuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace--but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

Patrick Henry, 23 March, 1775

 
At June 16, 2005 12:35 AM, Blogger The Eye of Oden said...

rune and Fjordman: There is little hope of the situation being solved peacefully. either Sweden will fully submit and become an islamic country, with the blind sheeple following the elitist government, or people will wake up and rise up against the silent invasion and destruction of swedish culture.

There are already those who have. However, they are neo-nazis. I myself have no problem with any immigrant, so long as they do not take advantage of their host country, and piss on the people.

Muslims in sweden do just that. They abuse the situation and good nature of the swedes and have worn out their welcome.

Like I said earlier, I hope it can be solved peacefully, but I am armed and prepared to return to sweden immediately and deal with any situation that arises, should the situation escalate

This problem is occurring all over europe. To deny it is foolish. To ignore it could be deadly. I don't want my children or grandchildren growing up as dhimmis, or being gang-raped or worse.

Being politically correct got us in this mess. I forsee a typically bloody conflict in europe to arise.

To everyone from europe who wants a safe future for your children or grandchildren, when the call to arms goes up, stand and be counted.

 
At June 16, 2005 12:46 AM, Blogger Fjordman said...

The sad thing is than none if this had to happen, if only people could understand that Muslim immigration is extremely dangerous, and will have tragic consequences if allowed to continue. As in the 1930s, people wait for too long in dealing with the threat. The result could well become another Great War.

Humanity never learns.

 
At June 16, 2005 5:26 AM, Blogger Jude the Obscure said...

Remember Kosovo?
First there will be news blackouts, then roadblocks, then the refugees (blonde haired and blue eyed) then the UN, blaming Swedish intolerance, will cede Malmo as a Muslim state, then the financial aid, then...

 
At June 16, 2005 11:05 PM, Blogger The Eye of Oden said...

jude, Or it oculd very well go the way of the serbs.

The serbs had had enough, and began rounding up muslim males and executing them. Thousands of them. The good-willed "spineless" swedes will only take so much before they turn into blood-thirsty savages, and commit genocide. Then the UN will try the "war-criminals", the swedes who fought the muslims who pissed on their land, culture and gang rape swedish girls, lynch swedish men, and deface public property.

I bet the first country in europe to use force against their invading muslim parasites will be Denmark. They are on the brink.

 
At June 17, 2005 1:36 AM, Blogger Fjordman said...

You scare me a bit with that talk, Odin. I can't stand Islam, but I didn't make this to be a "lynch" blog. Islam is an ideology, Muslims are people. We have to remember that.

 
At June 17, 2005 3:51 AM, Blogger The Eye of Oden said...

I am not saying that those are my desires, but knowing europe, when action does come, it will likely be very bloody.

When the situation reaches the brink, the common swede, dane, norwegian, dutch person will not think, "ok, this is enough we should talk", they will think "I want blood for my gang raped daughter/mother/sister/cousin, or my murdered brother/father/friend etc".

These acts perpatrated against non-muslims are only growing larger in numbers, and soon the majority of the native citizens will have first hand experience with assualted relatives or friends. Time is ticking.

 
At June 17, 2005 12:04 PM, Blogger Swede & Patriot said...

Welcome to the world of propaganda:

1. You state that Muslims will become a majority in Malmo "in a few years".

Facts: The Muslim population of Malmö is about 45 000 people out of a total population of 269 142. That is slightly less than 17%.

#2. You state that "The politicians in charge are shot at by neo-Nazis."

If by "shot", you mean "verbally attacked", then yes you are correct in stating that neo-Nazis perform such behaviour.

Facts: No politician in sweden has been shot at since Olof Palme's assassination in 1986. The Swedish foreign ministed Anna Lindh was stabbed to death in 2003 by Mijailo Mijailovic, a serbian non-muslim immigrant.

#3 You state that "...the authorities have even started experimenting with all-Arabic preschool classes paid for by the Swedish state...".

Please point us to a news item or information giving credibility to this statement. We live in a world of propaganda so try to set an example by not trying the same lame methods.

#4 "At least 139 schools in Sweden suffered arson attacks during 2002 alone","...about a dozen Arab students were laughing and shouting 'Allahu Akbar!'"

You describe several situations where kids are acting immature and disrespectful of grownups and current events.

How has these kids insubordination anything to do with Islam or Muslims? If a Christian kid did the same, would it be a problem of religion or a problem of insubordination?

Welcome to the world of propaganda.

 
At June 17, 2005 12:37 PM, Blogger Fjordman said...

"The Muslim population of Malmö is about 45 000 people out of a total population of 269 142. That is slightly less than 17%."


I've heard several suggestions that the Muslim population today is at least 25 %, closer to 30 %. People of immigrant background already make up 45 % of the population and the majority of children born in Malmö, although not all of these are Muslims. Malmö has by far the highest percentage of Muslims of any major Scandinavian city, and growing fast. Thousands of native Swedes are leaving the city every year. We can argue about exactly which year Muslims will be the majority, but it is bound to happen.

"No politician in sweden has been shot at since Olof Palme's assassination in 1986."

Perrhaps I should be more accurate and say "shot at their homes". I did include the link to that:

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=1479&date=20050523

"You state that "...the authorities have even started experimenting with all-Arabic preschool classes paid for by the Swedish state...". Please point us to a news item or information giving credibility to this statement."

I did include that link, too, in Swedish. You should try actually reading my posts before accusing me of falsifying data:

http://sydsvenskan.se/kultur/article95705.ece

As for your last accusation: Hate against non-Muslims, infidels, is part and parcel of Islamic culture and Islamic teachings. They've been taught this at home.

 
At June 17, 2005 2:21 PM, Blogger Swede & Patriot said...

I first read the story elsewhere and so didn't notice the links in the text on your site. Thanks for pointing that out.

Regarding the claims that Malmo consists of 45% immigrants I refer to the official Malmo homepage that clearly states that 25 % of the residents are born outside of Sweden.

http://www.malmo.se/faktaommalmopolitik/statistik.4.33aee30d103b8f15916800028279.html

(Sorry swedish only)

While a agree that 25% is a high number one must remember that Malmo have been one of the major cities of immigrations in Sweden and the current population of 66 198 immigrants have entered the city ever since the immigration begun in modern times. Thus your claim that "in a few years" the city will be overrun by Muslims is outrageous and based on pure fiction.

Regarding the shooting at the politician's home. Thanks for clearing that out.

"Neo-nazi" organisations have committed such threats in the past against key individuals and continue to do so to further their own agenda. This has happened in the past and will continue to happen in the future, whether immigrants exist in Sweden or not.

The Swedish history is filled with groups of Nazi-collaborators during WWII and beyond. Such groups continue to recruit members from amongst Swedes by using whatever methods they can to make their agenda the active one.

The problem is that there is no outspoken debate over this issue, not from the general swede for fear of being labelled racist OR from politicans, for fear of commiting political suicide.

The Swedish immigration issue is a matter in itself, and it is not related to just a specific religion.

Regarding your comment on Islamic belief being hateful: There are individuals within each religious branch that colour the view of all members of that religious branch.
Just because there have been a series of pedophilic conduct within the Roman Catholic Church of USA doesn't mean that all Roman Catholic parents teach their children that pedophilia is alright.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/15/cf.crossfire/

Just because there are fundamentalists that say that non-Muslims should be hated doesn't mean that all Muslim parents teach their kids that hating non-Muslims is alright.

 
At June 17, 2005 2:52 PM, Blogger Fjordman said...

"Regarding the claims that Malmo consists of 45% immigrants I refer to the official Malmo homepage that clearly states that 25 % of the residents are born outside of Sweden."

Please note that "born outside of Sweden" and "of immigrant background" is NOT the same thing. When you know that second or even third generation Muslim immigrants in other countries are more conservative and religious than their parents, the proper thing to count is "of immigrant background". Authorities count only "foreign born" as immigrant to reduce the numbers. They do the same thing in Norway.

Regarding Islam: Yes, Islamic teachings by themselves are hateful, more so than any other major religion in existence.

But I agree with you there is a lack of debate about these issues.

 
At June 17, 2005 4:08 PM, Blogger Swede & Patriot said...

Ah interesting comment regarding only counting first generation immigrants to lower the number.

Of course if you should count the second generation and third generations of immigrants and so on, you would quickly notice that the only true Swedish people are called "Samer" who are the true indigenous population. Same as with the indians in the states.

But really, you don't call indians the true Americans now do you?

These definitions of Swedish and non-Swedish is a cultural phenomena common in all groups. "Us" and "Them".

The Swedish foreign policy goal have for a long time been to give temporary refuge to people who fled their countries from conflicts and oppression. However, with time the policy have changed to allow some of the refugees to apply for Swedish citizenship along with their children who most of the part is grown up there.

Now ask yourself this question, if your parents have a swedish citizenships, you are raised in the swedish educational system and you don't speak your parents language. How would you feel to be labelled a non-Swede?

This is the case with many of these second and third generation immigrants as they are referred as. Should we deny them the right to call themselves Swedes?

You say that "...you know that second or even third generation Muslim immigrants in other countries are more conservative and religious than their parents."

So what is your suggestion on how to deal with second and third generation immigrants? Who will be the judge on what religions and views are alright to have? Should we force feed everyone meatballs and surströmming (two traditional swedish meals) to test if they qualify?

Regarding your claims that Islam is hateful: Do you not see that what you are referring to is the terrorist organisations that use the religious writings of the Qur'an to further their own agendas? Just like any underground, extremist group would.

Respected Muslim organisations publically denounce such acts of terrorism and clearly state that they are not of Islam. The religion itself speaks of submission to God, not that you can take matters into your own hands and kill non-Muslims as you please.

Throughout the Qur'an there are descriptions that people who don't believe in God will be under His mercy and wrath if He chooses. However it does not glorify or condone senseless acts of terrorism as you seem to imply.

So where do these allegations of Islam being hateful come from? I would say it is from people mixing the concept of fundamentalists with the concept of Muslims.

 
At June 17, 2005 5:38 PM, Blogger 13times said...

So where do these allegations of Islam being hateful come from? I would say it is from people mixing the concept of fundamentalists with the concept of Muslims.

" Clifford Geertz thinks that there are as many Islams as there are Muslims, Ramadan sharply asserts, "There is one Islam."

http://www.prospect.org/print/V15/3/smith-l.html


Respected Muslim organisations publically denounce such acts of terrorism and clearly state that they are not of Islam



Please provide link(s)to muslim groups denouncing acts of suicide bombings in Isreal. Link a few seperate groups from middle eastern sources, not PR groups stationed in say.. Washington DC , Paris or London.

But really, you don't call indians the true Americans now do you?

American indian groups demand to be referred to as the original settlers of North America. American indians are afforded special rights and are considered extra-soveriegn people within the US.

While Lewis and Clark were the first Americans to see much of what would become the western United States, those same lands had long been occupied by native peoples.

http://www.pbs.org/lewisandclark/native/index.html

 
At June 19, 2005 2:15 AM, Blogger Fjordman said...

"Regarding your claims that Islam is hateful: Do you not see that what you are referring to is the terrorist organisations that use the religious writings of the Qur'an to further their own agendas? Just like any underground, extremist group would."


No, I do not. Jihad, the war against the infidels, is an integral part of Islam, not limited to "underground, extremist groups". And yes,the primary meaning of Jihad is Holy War to further the cause of Islam, not peaceful, inner struggle.

 
At June 20, 2005 4:59 PM, Blogger Swede & Patriot said...

Note: I am not a Muslim, I have just read too many books on religions around the world. I read this blog about Sweden being under attack from Muslims and I don't agree to this statement for the reasons I have tried to portray in earlier posts and in the following post.

Thank you for your comments. I agree that there are undoubtably groups such as Al-Qaida who commit vile terrorist attacks that are uncalled for, what I mean is that these attacks are not of Islam and that the Qur'an does not support them.

As a reply on the Israel-Palestine conflict that 13times refer to, the acts of violence performed in that war zone are not considered acts of terrorism according to the following fatwah (legal pronouncement):

http://www.islamonline.net/askaboutislam/display.asp?hquestionID=4311

We can clearly see that the bombings and violence committed in the contested zones, by both Israelites and Palestines are considered acts of war by this legal pronouncement. That Palestines are considered defending their homelands against a hostile force (Israel) and thus are regarded as fighters, not terrorists.

Think of this question: Would the french resistance during WWII be called terrorist?

The term "terrorism" is hard to pin-point exactly. But here is a fatwah describing what Islam has to say about it.

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=80090

Apart from the legal pronouncements I linked to, please refer to the article below for a summary of some of the muslim voices raised after the 9/11 attacks.
http://www.mediamonitors.net/riadabdelkarim3.html

Regarding Fjordman's claims that jihad is a holy war against the infidels. "jihad" is derived from the arabic verb "jahada" which literally means "struggle" in arabic, not "holy war" as some westerns call it. The concept incorporates many meanings to a believing Muslim. Here are a few examples as take from the following link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

* a military struggle
* the struggle of personal self-improvement against the self's base desires
* speaking out against an oppressive ruler
* going to pilgrimage
* taking care of elderly parents

The Qur'an clearly states that the military struggle is a way to fight transgressors, but not to become the transgressors yourself as seen in Surah 2, Verse 190.

http://www.quraan.com/index.aspx?tabindex=1&tabid=27&bid=2

{ And fight in the Way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors. }

 

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