Thursday, November 10, 2005

Pull support from imams

Numbers indicate that 70% of all reported cases of family violence in Oslo involve immigrants. 80% of the women seeking help at crisis centres are from immigrant background. This despite the fact that many of the men cooperate in controlling their women:

Pull support from imams

Equality Minister Karita Bekkemellem wants Muslim communities that are open to the idea of beating women to lose their state support funds. World Islamic Mission imam Syed Ikram Jilani had detailed arguments for precisely when it would be acceptable to strike one's wife. Bekkemellem refuses to accept imams who believe that physical punishment against women can be justified and will take up the matter with Minister of Culture and Church Affairs Trond Giske, newspaper Dagsavisen reports. "It is completely unacceptable and the government will examine using state support as a means of pressure. Imams must distance themselves from violence against women, not come with statements that can legitimize it," Bekkemellem told Dagsavisen. Imam Ikram Jilani, leader of one of the country's largest Muslim communities, the World Islamic Mission in Oslo's Grønland district, believes that men must be able to hit their wives to show anger in special circumstances, such as when the woman has been unfaithful, as long as she is not visibly injured. Jilani believes this can be done with a few blows to the body. Hitting should first be considered after the man has tried to get his wife to change her behavior in other ways. According to the Islamic Council this is a case of "symbolic punishment, not physically damaging blows". "I don't even want to hear the reasoning. It is not on to talk about "symbolic blows". There is zero tolerance for hitting. We will fight violence against women by Norwegians and we cannot accept it from our new countrymen," Bekkemellem said.

Immigrant taxi drivers acting as spies

The Danish nation-wide organisation of Women's Crisis Centres, LOKK, claims that a number of taxi drivers with immigrant backgrounds are spying on female immigrants who are hiding from their families. According to the organisation, the problem is especially rife in larger Danish cities. Taxi drivers using mobile phones are photographing females, who are seeking asylum in crisis centres, and their whereabouts are being sent onto their families, the president of LOKK told reporters. According to the daily B.T. it was a group of Taxi drivers who informed a Pakistani man recently, who was looking for his sister, where she could be found. The man murdered his sister three weeks ago outside Slagelse train station because she had married a man from Afghanistan against her families orders.

Beat your wives or “separate from them”?

"Men are overseers over women, by reason of that wherewith Allah hath made one of them excel over another, and by reason of that which they expend of their substance. Wherefore righteous women are obedient, and are watchers in husbands absence by the aid and protection of Allah. And those wives whose refractoriness ye fear, exhort them, and avoid them in beds, and beat them; but if they obey you, seek not a way against them; verily Allah is ever Lofty, Grand." (Quran 4:34)

An Islamic guide on how to beat your wife

An imam who wrote a book on how to beat your wife without leaving marks on her body has been ordered by a judge in Spain to study the country's constitution. In his book "Women in Islam," published four years ago, Mr. Mustafa wrote that verbal warnings followed by a period of sexual inactivity could be used to discipline a disobedient wife. If that failed, he argued that, according to Islamic law, beatings could be judiciously administered. "The blows should be concentrated on the hands and feet using a rod that is thin and light so that it does not leave scars or bruises on the body," he wrote.

"Oh, you're a Muslim? Well, then, carry on with that wife-beating"

POLICE are being advised to treat Muslim domestic violence cases differently out of respect for Islamic traditions and habits. Officers are also being urged to work with Muslim leaders, who will try to keep the families together. Women's groups are concerned the politically correct policing could give comfort to wife bashers and keep their victims in a cycle of violence. "The implication is one needs to be more tolerant of violence against Muslim women but they should be entitled to the same protection," Ms El Matrah said.

Spencer: Open Season on Muslim Women

Muslim husbands, of course, can point to Qur’an 4:34 to justifying wife-beating: “…good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them…” This sanction has become culturally ingrained: the Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences has determined that today over ninety percent of Pakistani wives have been struck, beaten, or abused sexually — for offenses on the order of cooking an unsatisfactory meal. Others were punished for failing to give birth to a male child.

Punishing Disobedient Wives

The beating which is only prescribed in the case of disobedient wives is intended to serve as a remedy in an unusual situation. If the husband feels the wife is behaving in a disobedient and rebellious manner, he is required to rectify her attitude — first by kind words, then gentle persuasion and reasoning. Beating as a last resort must never be understood to entail using a stick or any other instrument that would cause pain or injury. A rebellious woman who is not moved by kind works, persuasion and admonition is a woman of no feeling and must therefore be punished by beating. Psychiatrists tell us of people, including women, for whom a cure lies in beating.


Freedom House today released the first ever comparative assessment of women's rights in the Middle East and North Africa. No country in the region has laws that clearly outlaw all forms of domestic violence. The burden of proof is placed entirely on the female victim in cases of gender-based violence, which discourages women from reporting crimes. Some laws, such as those that encourage men who rape women to marry their victims, even condone violence against women. In almost all MENA countries, women face gender-based discrimination in family codes. Except in Morocco and Tunisia, family laws relegate women to inferior status within marriage and family life. Husbands are given power over their wives' right to work and travel, and they can divorce their wives at any time, without reason and without going to court; women are required by law to meet specific conditions in order to seek divorce through a court of law.


At November 10, 2005 3:32 PM, Blogger Chip said...


You never read the memo. If we just ignore these problems the miracle of multiculturalism will make them go away. That, and the miracle of unkept statistics.

At November 10, 2005 3:57 PM, Blogger Fulmen Septentrionalis said...

Hei fjormainn,

sjer at du æ trønder, hadd vørre arti å snakka me de. Går d an å kontakt de privat på nå vis?


At November 10, 2005 4:00 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

Fulmen: Jeg skal snart trekke meg tilbake fra blogging og vil forsvinne fra internett, men takk for tilbudet :-)

At November 10, 2005 4:12 PM, Blogger Fulmen Septentrionalis said...

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At November 10, 2005 7:14 PM, Blogger Panteren said...

Perhaps you’ll find this article interesting

It is about an imam sentenced to jail, for threatening a woman to pull back her incest claim about her son and his father, her husband. She didn’t by the way.

What does "trønder" mean?

At November 10, 2005 10:18 PM, Blogger Thomas Bolding Hansen said...

Sad story, BUT in ISLAM - which means PEACE, women had equal rights of men and were allowed to vote hundred of years ago.
And AISHA who became MUHAMMADS PBUH dear wife at age 6 and shared the glories of the matrimonal bed at age 9, lead the good faithfull in battle vs Ali.
Women are like diamonds. to be locked away from the thief and preying eyes.

At November 11, 2005 12:38 AM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

Well, Thomas, some people don't think of submission as being peace no matter what dictionary you use.


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