Tuesday, October 18, 2005

Europe, America, and Politics Without God

Europe, America, and Politics Without God

The Brussels Journal interviewed George Weigel about his new book, in which he tackles what he calls “Europe’s problem.” According to Weigel Europe is dying in the most literal sense: it is depopulating itself. Why is a continent that is richer, healthier and more secure than ever before failing to create the human future in the most elemental sense of creating successive generations? According to Weigel, a Roman Catholic theologian, Europe’s problem has to do with the loss of the cult at the heart of the culture. I think it is unclear whether the Eurabia hypothesis is anything more than a hypothesis. What is killing Europe right now is not the Mosque, what is killing Europe and what I believe is most manifestly shown in its demographic rates, is a secularist cast of mind. It foreshortens people’s horizons of expectations of themselves and of the future so drastically that they do not even create the future in the most elementary sense. You cannot blame that on Islam. I think you can blame that on the cast of mind that expressed itself in the Habermas-Derrida manifesto that the EU must be a political community neutral among worldviews. The Eurabia question aside, no-one who can read a balance sheet can deny that Europe, Western Europe, is heading for a severe fiscal crisis. There is a real possibility that this fiscal crisis will lead to a profound social crisis. This is not good news. It is certainly not good news for Europe but it is absolutely not good news either for the United States.

4 Comments:

At October 18, 2005 3:33 PM, Blogger talnik said...

It's not only without God but without religion. Regardless of your belief in any god, the Bible should be viewed as a store of wisdom obtained from thousands of years of learning. For example, "Go forth and multiply" translates into social security for the old and infirm (the young and healthy take care of their relatives). But in this age of welfare, there prevails a mindset that the gov't will provide for such things, therefore breeding is not a priority. However, gov't can't provide if nobody else is going forth and multiplying either!
This also demonstrates the foolishness of a socialist government promoting (as opposed to tolerating, which I am for) homosexuality and abortion. Social programs are an ever expanding Ponzi scheme that requires more and more bodies. Kinda tough to achieve that end through gov't support of buggery and infanticide.
By the way, just last week I read an article celebrating the fact young Western women are looking to sex more and more for pleasure and less for marriage and procreation.
Tipping point?

 
At October 18, 2005 5:39 PM, Blogger sissyblue said...

Also, what I believe is frightening is the increasing desire of the "left" to believe in their own theories and ideas, rather than facts, and truth.

For example, fewer people who study the "hard sciences" (engineering, chemistry, physics)are "liberal", while almost all people who study the liberal arts and sciences (sociology, psychiatry, etc) are left of center.

I saw a documentary on HBO the other day about all the people in Iceland who seriously believe in fairies, trolls, ghosts, and UFOs. Yikes!

Job 38:33 "Do you know the laws of heaven or impose its authority on earth?"

It was because of Christianity, and Judaism, that the West realized that we humans can investigate the laws of the universe. We accept that there are truths, and that we can find truth.

St. Thomas Aquinas introduced Aristotelian theories into the Catholic Church in the 12th century, and that's when they were led astray by the Aristotelian idea that the earth was flat. St Augustine in the 5th century knew the truth, that it was in fact a sphere. Maimonides (Jewish)in the 12th century described in great detail the "Big Bang" theory for the creation of the universe, all from gleaning scriptures.

 
At October 23, 2005 6:28 AM, Blogger Caturo said...

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At October 23, 2005 6:31 AM, Blogger Caturo said...

«It was because of Christianity, and Judaism, that the West realized that we humans can investigate the laws of the universe. We accept that there are truths, and that we can find truth.»

So, there was not any scientific activity in Europe before Christianity?
So, Aristotle was a Christian? What about Plato? Archimedes? Heraclitus? Thales?

Which is the root of the highest cultural level? Greece. Pagan Greece.

Europe lost a lot of it's brightness in the medium ages, i.e., during the Christian spiritual rule, and started to return to it's real intellectual and cultural roots with the Renaissance.

Thus, Europe is what it is, not thanks to Christianity, but INSPITE of Christianity.

Yes, Europe need religion - Europe need to have a superior type of conscience, a spiritual dimension. But the real European spiritual dimension, lies in it's ancestral religions - in the worship of Jupiter, Zeus, Odin, Perun, Perkunas.

Minerva, Hermes and Lug, light our path...



«It was because of Christianity, and Judaism, that the West realized that we humans can investigate the laws of the universe. We accept that there are truths, and that we can find truth.»

So, there was not any scientific activity in Europe before Christianity?
So, Aristotle was a Christian? What about Plato? Archimedes? Heraclitus? Thales?

Which is the root of the highest cultural level? Greece. Pagan Greece.

Europe lost a lot of it's brightness in the medium ages, i.e., during the height of the Christian spiritual rule, and started to return to it's real intellectual and cultural roots with the Renaissance.

It was the Church that forbade Galileo to say that the world was a sphere circulating around the Sun, not Aristotle - and, in the Pagan ancient European societies, nobody was ever punished for stating scientific theories about nature.

Thus, Europe is what it is, not thanks to Christianity, but inspite of Christianity.

Yes, Europe need religion - Europe need to have a superior type of conscience, a spiritual dimension. But the real European spiritual dimension, lies in it's ancestral religions - in the worship of Jupiter, Zeus, Odin, Perun, Perkunas.

These Gods, and their sacred Retinues, did never ordered our ancestors to give the other cheek, or to love everybody equally (with no distinction of blood and family ties), which is the Christian root of today’s European political correctness.

Let Minerva, Hermes and Lug, light our path...

 

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