Friday, July 08, 2005

We Shall Prevail!...Or Will We?

We Shall Prevail!...Or Will We?

Instead of passing foolish laws banning criticism of Islam, Islam must be discussed freely in schools, universities and in the mainstream media. Public debates must take place between the proponents and the opponents of Islam so the hidden facts about Islam come to surface. Muslims living among us must be brought to accountability. They must either leave Islam or forced to leave non-Muslim countries. Islam is terrorism. It must be banned.

London bombs: "I don’t think it’s al-Qaeda, I think it’s someone more powerful, like the Israelis"

Out on Aylward Street, Kadar Duale, 19, and Hussain Amir, 18, both Muslims, both A-level students in nearby Newham, both born in Stepney to families originating in Somalia and Bangladesh respectively, stopped to talk, albeit briefly and reluctantly. “I feel bad, obviously,” Mr Duale said, “some people are dying. I phoned to check my friends were OK. They shouldn’t do this to get their point across. I don’t think it’s al-Qaeda, I think it’s someone more powerful, like the Israelis.” Mr Amir agreed. “They’ve been ignored. To commit suicide is the only thing they can do to get their point across.” Mr Amir was grinning throughout this exchange.

19 Comments:

At July 08, 2005 9:21 PM, Blogger Dymphna said...

Oh, heavens, it's not the Israelis. It's those nasty Christians in Darfur. Or maybe a few Swedes dressed up in wolf's clothing...

...but al-Qaeda? No way. They were all out getting their orienteering badges for their Boy Scout troop.

 
At July 09, 2005 4:51 AM, Blogger miira said...

Fjordman wrote:
"Instead of passing foolish laws banning criticism of Islam, Islam must be discussed freely in schools, universities and in the mainstream media."

AGREED!! We now have ample capablitiy to decifer this code . . .it wasn't possible that long ago.

According to David Margoliouth's book "The Early developement of Mohammedanism" from the Hibbert Lectures delivered in the University of London of May-June 1913, Islam's secrets were only recently becoming clear (and not muddled with PC interpretations).

Margoliouth opens the first lecture with:
"It is a noteworthy fact about the Mohammedan system that since the Migration it has demanded no qualifications for admission to its brotherhood. To those who are outside its pale it in theory offers no facilities whatever for the study of its nature; a man must enroll himself as a member first, and then only may he learn what his obligations are. The Koran may not be sold to Unbelievers; soldiers are advised not to take it with them into hostile teritory for fear the Unbeliever should get hold of it; and many a copy bears upon it a warning to Unbelievers not to touch. Pious grammarians have refused to teach grammar to Jews or Christians, because the rules were apt to be illustrated by quotations from the sacred volume. The Unbeliever is by one of the codes forbidden to enter a mosque, and even when permission is granted him to do so, he is an unwelcome guest. The crowning ceremony of Islam, the Pilgrimage, may be witnessed by no Unbeliever; the penalty for intrusion is death.
It follows that such periods of instruction and probation as are enjoined by some other systems upon neophytes are unknown to Islam; and indeed there is no occasion for them. Their purpose is to test the neophyte's sincerity in the first place, and his moral worthiness in the second. Against insincerity the system is sufficiently armed by the principle that whosoever abandons Islam forfeits his life; there is then little danger of men joining for some dishonest purpose and quitting the community when that purpose has been served."


We must insist that we continue to freely discuss and inform the infidel world what we are up against. . . because today, WE CAN.

 
At July 09, 2005 8:03 AM, Blogger Jude the Obscure said...

I agree. Outlaw the 'religion'and its clothing. Bulldoze the mosques and close the Islamic schools. Repatriate Muslims en masse.

 
At July 09, 2005 12:51 PM, Blogger Jay.Mac said...

Daily Kos comments had one or two- possibly more, I couldn't stomach reading too much- believing that Karl Rove was responsible for the London attacks (how else is he to get the media spotlight off him in the CIA leak case?).

I'm serious- they really said it and, I'm scared to say, probably believe it.

Also check out this- some British Muslims simply stating that Britain had it coming.

 
At July 09, 2005 1:47 PM, Blogger Kledo said...

This is an article about London inhabitans. The worst thing on this article is the fact that it was published one year ago: 20 April 2004

... "As far as I'm concerned, when they bomb London, the bigger the better," says Abdul Haq, the social worker. ...

... "I agree with you, brother," says Abu Yusuf, the earnest-looking financial adviser sitting opposite. "I would like to see the Mujahideen coming into London and killing thousands, whether with nuclear weapons or germ warfare. ...

... His friend, Abu Musa, the security guard, smiles radiantly. "It will be a day of joy for me," he adds, speaking with a slight lisp. ...

... But Sayful and his friends laugh at the idea that they are local pariahs. "The mosques say one thing to the public, and something else to us. Let's just say that the face you see and the face we see are two different faces," says Abdul Haq. "Believe me," adds Musa, "behind closed doors, there are no moderate Muslims." ...

We were warned but we have failed miserably to defend ourselves.

Please read the whole article, at last it is not about them it is about us.

The full article is here.

 
At July 09, 2005 6:02 PM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

What I want to know is if the Media is STILL PC on this issue. Are they MUSLIM terrorists who did this, or just "terrorists". I DONT think you'll see "Muslim Terror Grooup Claims Responsibility" Please POST if anything in the left wing (or right) shows up stating MUSLIM TERRORISTS.

Unfortunatley, Muslim terrorits are the ONLY ONES who can stop, reverse their invation. This is the first step, for nazi-PC Britan.


On OUR news show,it was pointed out that local muslims were actually at GREATER RISK of these types of attacks...I think these Desert rats know instinctively how to DEAL WITH and MANIPULATE our UNCRITICAL PRESS. ITs pathetic...

The first dirty nuke ends it....

 
At July 10, 2005 12:19 AM, Blogger NYgirl said...

Bad monkey, I wish I could be as optimistic as you to believe that a dirty nuke will end it. Despite the horror of 9/11, there are still lots of moonbats running around the city.

Did you see the news item that the Isreali embassy was warned of the attacks by Sctoland Yard? It was proven false, but in the first hours it was a big story.

I couldn't agree with Fjorman & miira more, we do need to have an open dicussion of Islam. The Islamic world needs to do that, but as people like Rushdi learned the hard way, this kind of thing comes at a hight price.

I would also recommend Ishrad Munji, she is blog rolled on my site under People to See. She talks about the need to revieve the tradition of reinterpretation of the Koran called Ishjihath. Visit her site, it is a must read.

 
At July 10, 2005 1:31 AM, Blogger Rune said...

Al-Qaeda? Heck, I guess it’s Bader-Meinhof or the Red Brigades or something, perhaps the Salvation Army.

General Abd Al-Halim said: "These groups, as we said and as was mentioned, are not just Muslim. There are many extremist groups. We've all heard of Bader-Meinhof. We've all heard of the Red Brigades, the Red Army, and many other groups. Even if we don't hear about these groups in the media, we can't exclude them. It's possible that these groups operate today under the guise of Al-Qa'ida, and it is attributed to Al-Qa'ida, and there is a communiqué saying that Al-Qa'ida and so on. These organizations exist in many countries. As we said, we're talking about a decentralized organization and they are operating under the name of... and they publish a communiqué stating that it was Al-Qa'ida that carried out this operation."


A good slap
Abd Al-Bari Atwan, editor-in-chief of the London Arabic-language daily Al-Quds Al-Arabi who often expresses support for Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden, [2] gave an interview to Al-Jazeera TV which aired on July 7, 2005.

In the interview, Atwan said: "There is no doubt that Tony Blair, the prime minister of Britain, got a good slap from these explosions. Tony Blair was at the height of glory up to the last moments before these explosions. When I say the height of glory, I mean that he succeeded in ensuring that London, the capital of Britain, would host the Olympics, and likewise he was reclining in his seat as the head of the G8 summit. In addition, he had begun his term as leader of the European Union. Through these achievements, the man wanted to cover up the big failure incurred by the British and American policy in Iraq.

"These explosions came and blew up everything. They prove that the war Blair and Bush waged against terrorism, on which they have spent about $250 billion, in addition to the killing of some 2,000 British soldiers and 100,000 Iraqi citizens - this war up till now has not been successful. If the Al-Qa'ida organization is really behind these explosions, this proves that it has reorganized its ranks, succeeded in recruiting new expertise, and reached the heart of the European capitals - Britain following Madrid, and maybe in the future - Washington or New York."


http://memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=743.)

 
At July 10, 2005 2:19 AM, Blogger Jude the Obscure said...

Attacks on Mosques in NZ

 
At July 10, 2005 3:31 AM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

Those NZ attacks wont help at all, it just makes them martyrs, er, "Christian Martyrs' so to speak...


There is no galvanized anti-illegal, anti-muslim movements in Western European societies.
Only MORE of the same can eventually close the doors, as in Denmark....

I think the fact that they cant figure out how many died, (peices, body parts too small) can help the cause a little bit...

You need people to vote for Reps who will do something about this...

There is no CRITICAL coverage, it treats all muslims like christians.... so the problem will continue...

On a higher note, that is thier weakness, a propensity for violence, and a MAJORITY that SUPPORTS THE VIOLENCE.....

Sad, it cannot be uncovered just yet....

 
At July 10, 2005 3:43 AM, Blogger erp said...

It's impossible to comment without repeating oneself. No more talk, action.

 
At July 10, 2005 5:04 AM, Blogger felix said...

Perhaps the most important public policy for homeland security is to adopt a policy that radical islamists be deported. They can no longer be allowed to live in our society. If someone is one, then they must either be deported or taken into custody until they can be deported. This may sound radical, but what else is there to do? Laws should be enacted to make this possible.

 
At July 10, 2005 7:03 AM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

You are dealing with a % basis here. Say 50% of Muslims SIDE with the Islamofacists. That is 10 million in Western Europe alone.

I dont think you can honestly say that 50% of Europe Muslims SIDE WITH THE HOST CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES on these issues...
The bombings were "justified" by Iraq, and Afganistan....etc...
Most Muslims would AGREE


That is absurd. Action ERP?
Just prove that! It shouldnt be that hard to do....Show the NEWS NETWORKS SIDE WITH THE MUSLIM TERRORISTS....

As I said before, you need some type of internet topless news, with blond beauties, and SPORTS intermixed with the REAL NEWS...

Any thing less will not do, unless you figure out how to take on the media, which you cant...

Bikini babes reading the news about MUSLIM GANG RAPES OF GIRLS, 10 YEARS OLD AND UP.......etc....

 
At July 10, 2005 11:24 AM, Blogger Rune said...

Likely a number of the terrorists were Middle Eastern immigrants to Britain. It’s almost ironic, that Britain has been down this road before. After Roman withdrawal in the 5th century, Roman England was beset by Irish pirates and Caledonian invaders. The British rulers then invited the Saxons to help defend them. A century later the Saxons had all but exterminated their original hosts or driven them to the extremity of Wales. You invite the barbarian to your midst at your own peril.

 
At July 10, 2005 5:47 PM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

OMG- Thank you Rune, I never heard that before. You only hear about the Viking invaders. But there is one difference. These people are regressive. They have a regressive religion, and are prone to racism. IT just needs to be pointed out to the invaded. But of course, the head of the BNP was arrested for saying " I dont like Muslims", so I think it will be a close call.
All muslims have to do is pretend they are on 'your' side, and the Brits will eat it up! Its a joke to the muzzies (as was pointed out in the top story)Oh you poor Brits, were in danger too, you know....

BAdMonkey is workin' on it...

Want to see College educated Americans deal with the science of diverstiy? This is a scary sight. IT proves severe left wing bias in Anthropology Departments, at least for the poster on this site. Its sickening, but Ive seen the same results. Attack those who dont consider ALL people WHITE, and ANGLO-SAXON,NORDIC....

Finally, you might want to try the listserv ANTHRO-L, which has a core of real anthropologists, and gets into some very interesting discussions, some of which are actually about human evolution. It is at:

http://listserv.buffalo.edu/archives/anthro-l.html

You can sign up for any or all of these lists, and I assure you, you will get an "education"!
(Yes, banned for winning arguments agains left wing loonies...)

See #50 The Scotsman: What fertile women really want: a macho man with a strong odour

 
At July 10, 2005 7:11 PM, Blogger Fjordman said...

"Bulldoze the mosques"

Please don't write stuff like that on the blog. I realize you are angry, but it isn't helping.

Islam should be met with MASSIVE amounts of criticism, flooding the media.

 
At July 11, 2005 12:20 AM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

Does anyone have links to good pro- Islamic english language message boards?

 
At July 11, 2005 8:19 AM, Blogger ik said...

Excerpts from an article in an Indian newspaper

"The young men and women who are blowing themselves up are trained not by terrorist groups but by mullahs and Islamic seminaries and until we acknowledge this we cannot win the war against terrorism."

"they will succeed because no Western leaders and certainly not our own ‘‘secular’’ lot have shown any determination when it comes to dealing with the mullahs and the venomous ideology they preach through Islamic seminaries."

" I am willing to bet that most have come up in the past 15 years and that the money comes from the same Middle Eastern countries that funded last week’s bombings in London and 9/11. As long as we pretend that this is not true we remain in danger of losing the war against terrorism. "

read the whole article
(Breeding grounds for suicide bombers)
http://iecolumnists.expressindia.com/full_column.php?content_id=74160

 
At July 11, 2005 11:05 AM, Blogger Matthew said...

The terrorists attacked London when you went on holiday, Fjordman... Coincidence? I dont think so ;)

www.occidentalism.org

 

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