Thursday, June 23, 2005

Murdered in name of family honour

Maher Shakirat summoned three of his sisters to discuss a family uproar after one of them, Rudaina, was thrown out by her husband for an alleged affair. Then he forced the three women to drink bleach before strangling Rudaina. The other sisters tried to flee but Maher caught and strangled Amani, 20. The third, Leila, escaped but was badly injured by the bleach. The murders were the latest in a series of brutal "honour killings" that have shaken the Palestinian community over recent weeks. The deaths have prompted demands for a change to laws that deem all women to be "minors" under the authority of male relatives. But those calls have met with resistance in parliament where religious Palestinian MPs argue that reform will lead to a collapse in the moral fabric of society. "Men feel they have lost their dignity and that they can somehow restore it by upholding the family's honour. We've noticed recent cases are much more violent in nature; attempts to kill, rape, incest. There is an incredible amount of incest." Amira Abu Hanhan Qaoud murdered her daughter, Rafayda, because she became pregnant after being raped by two of her brothers. "My daughter fell over and broke her knee. I took her to hospital and there the doctor told me she was pregnant. So I killed her. It's as simple as that," said Mrs Qaoud on her doorstep in Ramallah. Mrs Qaoud waited until the baby was born and given up for adoption. Then she presented her 22 year-old daughter with a razor blade and told her to slash her wrists. She refused so her mother pulled a plastic bag over her head, sliced her wrists and beat her head with a stick.

34 Comments:

At June 24, 2005 1:05 AM, Blogger jimgoism said...

This is sick i agree...

Unfortunatly america needs to wake up and fast...

I ckeck out your blog from time to time (i also am writing now) as we need to get the word out)

my blog is jimgoism.blogspot.com of course :)

anyway you keep on writing

 
At June 24, 2005 1:44 AM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

"But those calls have met with resistance in parliament where religious Palestinian MPs argue that reform will lead to a collapse in the moral fabric of society."

I didn't realize rape, incest and murder are part of the "moral fabric" of society ... oh, sorry, I forgot -- he's talking about Islamic society!

 
At June 24, 2005 11:32 AM, Blogger TheEditrix said...

In my opinion the worst threat about Islam does not lie in itself, but the West's reaction to it.

Great Blog! I cover similar topics at my own one http://www.editorsoffice.de/blog_.htm, which includes a daily Blog http://www.editorsoffice.de/blogger.html. I have blogrolled you and will drop in here regularly.
Thanks!

 
At June 24, 2005 12:06 PM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

Again, you cant judge cultures by Modern Western European Norms. Those "norms" (adapting feminist,left leaning thinking) are first and formost, ETHNIC, IE: White, white northern European...

These cultures are suppressing FEMINISM, in the BEST WAY THEY KNOW HOW. They are morons, and that is why they should STAY IN THEYRE FRIGGIN COUNTRY..!!!

"Female power" was more of the norm in HUNTER GATHERER societies, IE: they worshipped mother earth: IE: Herra

Agriculture, modern civilization allowed the MALE to take over...IE: Sky Gods, as opposed to EARTH GODDESS....

You cannot possibly think that these cultures should, or could, behave like WESTERN EUROPEAN CULTURES....Its geneticly IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Norweigans (NORDIC ie: ARCTIC people)are NOT GERMANS (Mainly Alpine, warmer climate) Are they???
Norway in TURN is not SWEEDEN, IE: Norway is more ALPINE NORDIC, IE: a warmer climate zone as opposed to Sweden, a colder climate zone.


That is WHAT DEFINES YOUR COUNTRY/PEOPLE, CLIMATE...and adaptation to climate...PERIOD

Read that again kiddies, because BaDMonkey was the first monkey to propose the reality of the Nation state as a climate zone...

Heck-even in WW1, the Germans were doing "Weird things" during the war, like collecting glycol from the dead. Not sure how the hell you do that, (body fat, bone marrow?) but its an "efficient"(German "stereotype") thing to do during war. Its also friggin weird...

So even if muslims wanted to assimilate to the west, they still have too much testosterone in the blood, and crime would be higher, and corruption would be higher. Dressing up a monkey in a tuxedo means you get a fancy monkey, but if your not careful, he'll still rip your arms off...

I should know!! =)

 
At June 24, 2005 12:28 PM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

Speaking of weird, and commenting on another post here, I noticed that, amazingly, Lenon, and Trotsky had Jewish ancestory...Im wondering now if the Soviet Revolution was in fact, a "Jewish" revolution, and if this was in part why Nazi Germany want with the "final" solution, instead of just deporting jews to Russia.

I wonder also why we never hear of the Soviet attrocities during the war. Because it was the Jewish war?

Again, how many other leading figures in Soviet Russia (Which first defined : Political Correctness)were Jewish...

Now Im scared!!! Not that easy to scare a Monkey, Ill tell you that right now....!!!

Im a bit worried...

 
At June 24, 2005 12:46 PM, Blogger Fjordman said...

"It's geneticly IMPOSSIBLE!!!"


You seem very preoccupied with race, Badmonkey. I can't see that this has anything to do with race. It has to do with an Islamic tribal culture that hasn't changed for centuries, and doesn't recognize individual freedom.

"I'm wondering now if the Soviet Revolution was in fact, a "Jewish" revolution"

The Nazis thought so, too. What have you been reading lately? The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion or something?

 
At June 25, 2005 2:45 AM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

Actually, your thinking Fjordman, was my thinking, Ive heard rumors, then I saw a picture of Trotsky, and I was shocked.He looked very Jewish, and I suppose the guy did post it to prove that exact point.

I looked up Lenon, and apparently its no secret he was part Jewish, and so the question remains. Was the "Soviet Union" largely a Jewish enterprise. Riley(ace of spies) , who almost took over the Russian empire as it collapsed, was a know Jew...
===========================
Culture is a REFLECTION of race, or ethnicity, and I described that as best I could in the space above.
I really dont understand people who have an issue with this concept, but it is probably the MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF FREE DEMOCRACIES.So of course its important. Why do humans behave the way they do? Whould you like to show me a website that explains human behavior in a cultural context?

This is THE question. If youve ever read the old testament, you get a view into the Jewish mind, as opposed to the Islamic mind. You can then make comparisons.

In the Bible, God cast out Satan
ABSOULUTELY. IE: Black and WHITE.

In the Koran, satan took the FALL , for god, in a matter of speaking, IE: Satan was kind of a good guy....

You have Purity, and the not so pure... which may in some respects clarify human behavior, and human morality.

You yourself post on how barbarus Islamic countries can be...

Countries are composed of people, they are concrete, not "ethereal".

If you think IM occupied by RACE, What about, (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Russia, France, Ireland, England, Scottland, Belgium, Italy, Swizerland, Austria, Estonia, China, Japan,Uganda, Kenya....etc..
A country by definition is defined by its "people" who have adapted to the local environment and inbread to some degree...and have a unified government, for defence, etc...
Do you get my point?

I wouldnt be OCCUPIED about it if everyone was the SAME...

Race, ethnicity is defined by Darwinian adaptation to local environment. So of course Im focused on it, everyone else in the world is too!

 
At June 25, 2005 2:59 AM, Blogger the adventuress said...

What exactly is your beef with Jews, badmonkey?

They add to a nation's wealth, knowledge base and polity, unlike the practioners of Islam who usually detract from those things.

If Europe doesn't want its Jews, send 'em to us in the US. We'll take all you got.

The last time Europe decided to beat up on its Jews, we got Albert Einstein and most of the founders of the Golden Age of Hollywood out of the deal.

 
At June 25, 2005 4:32 AM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

Where does it say I have a beef with Jews? Your interpreting alot. Im just asking if the SOVIUET UNION was largely a (RUSSIAN JEWISH) undertaking, and the more I am learning, the more i have to say YES.

Given that the SOVIET UNION killed - what, 30,000,000,000 of its own people, (gentiles?) and that the 'revolution' as Im finding, was Jewish in its origins, that would make Russian Jews on PAR with Hitler, would it not?

But yes, I agree with you. Jews contribute to the economy which is a good thing, mostly. BUT -They control Hollywood,and TV protrays white people as murderers more often than the numbers would suggest, (VDARE) and of course, they show BLOND MALES as leading roles as BAD GUYS....like its a stereotype or something.... again, just a small point...

I am a bit worried that this is such a controversial issue....the internet provides ALOT of info about soviet russia, so finding out more is not that difficult....

But - It looks like Lenon was Jewish...

So we may be talking about another type of JEWISH holocost, the ones when they were pulling the triggers....

Again, right or wrong....??? Im just asking..

 
At June 25, 2005 5:13 AM, Blogger Fjordman said...

"So we may be talking about another type of JEWISH holocost, the ones when they were pulling the triggers."


I see. Jews were responsible for Stalin sending millions of people to the Gulag? Phlueese.

I try to be very lenient with freedom of speech here, but you're hijacking this thread about honor killings with incoherent, anti-Semitic nonsense about Lenin and the Soviet Union. It's testing my patience.

 
At June 25, 2005 6:33 AM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

Sorry Fjordman, - Im not posting anti-semetic stuff, just asking questions, and delving more into the history...


Honor Killings are a cultural aspect of Muslim Society, as I posted above. That is how Muslims,(mainly arabic, Im not sure if asian muslims do this or not, in the quantity seen in the middle east.)deal with thier societies...

If they had more access to resources,wealth, they would "liberalise" somewhat, but at the moment, they do not...It would also take alot of middle class people to sway away from fundamentalism. As the West itself is in decline, and China rising, it is doubtful that a more liberal middle east will occure any time soon. There are reasons for human behavior, one should seek the reason, not be judgemental to other cultures. What you see is what you get...

I am looking more into the leaders of the soviet union, and soviet history, because my interest was perked by a picture of a young Trotsky. There is nothing wrong in seeking out the truth...

 
At June 25, 2005 10:53 AM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

"Given that the SOVIET UNION killed - what, 30,000,000,000 of its own people,..."

Are you counting all of their pets, farm animals, roaches and rats, also?

 
At June 25, 2005 5:31 PM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

30 million or so....sorry...but I suppose a good deal of family pets and pests died inadvertently...

BTW,I also stated about German behavior during WW1, distilling glycol from the war dead, as a prelude to German behavior during WW2....Didnt hear any complaints about that.

And yes, apparently the communist movement,as well intentioned as it was, was in large part a Jewish movement,unless all the information on the internet is completely falsified...I would plug in the name of the particular person (look up :Communist leaders in soviet russia) and add jewish, and even the name of the off shoot is in yiddish...not to digress of course....


That being said, race is obviously very important when it comes to human behavior. Some Europeans are complaining that these muslims dont adopt western thinking, and integrate. But even if they did, without Western Europeans, there would be nothing for them to "adapt to " in terms of civilized western behavior.

Also, testosterone effects psychological development, puberty, maturity, in known ways... So even if they were able to integrate, crime would be higher, because testosteron levels are higher. And if they keep thier religion, which is very fundamentalist, fundamentalism cannot dissapear. It exists in the United States in christianity... so how are muslims to give it up?
: They wont...They will fall back on it, as a group they simpley have too many people to "adapt" to western european standards... and would be ostricised if they tried...so a large majority will always conform, and a small % will adapt, say 10%, to Western values. (Based mainly on Education, upper middle class acheivement.)

whew....

 
At June 25, 2005 5:40 PM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

With all of your interest in Jews, have you read "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?" It seems like something right up your alley.

 
At June 25, 2005 7:56 PM, Blogger Sylvia, Denver said...

Badmonkey,

Many Jews in fact were involved in the Russian Revolution because they saw it as a way of ending the horrible oppression under the Tsars - they weren't the only ones.

Very quickly however, the Russian revolution was compromised, in no small part because of the weak and populist drivel that communism is based on. The Tsarist police managed to morph themselves into the KGB. If I am not mistaken, Stalin had connections to the Tsarist police/KGB.

IMHO it was actually the KGB/Tsarist police that were running "All the Russias". The Jews, along with many others were no more than useful fools who were used by the Tsarist/KGB to attain power.

I have little doubt that if communism hadn't come along the secret police simply would have had to create it or use something similar. That kind of populist/commie nonsense has been around since the French Revolution. The Tsars had proven themselves unable to defend Mother Russia, and as such had to go.

By continuously looking for some "Jew" angle, you miss the bigger picture of how Europe seems to always fall into some fascistic cycle.

 
At June 25, 2005 7:56 PM, Blogger Kledo said...

Irene Adler,

and you got political correctness, identity politics, mass immigration, Susan Sonntag and former KGB chief Jevgenij Primakow as the chief advisor at your new "Big Brother" ministry.

Everything has its negative aspect.

:)

 
At June 25, 2005 8:10 PM, Blogger Kledo said...

Sylvia,

I have to express strong doubts on your interpretation of Ochranka/Ceka/OGPU/NKVD/KGB history.

Especially The Tsarist police managed to morph themselves into the KGB. this part is very arguable.

I suggest you to read "KGB - The Inside Story of its Foreign Operations from Lenin to Gorbachev" authors: Christopher Andrew and Oleg Gordievsky / East Art Agency Publishers.

Stalin was "Ochranka's" informer before WWI in city of Baku.

 
At June 25, 2005 8:17 PM, Blogger Sylvia, Denver said...

Kledo,

True. However it should be noted that just about every minority community has their fools, and these fools seem to be paraded about at every opportunity.

American Blacks have their Micheal Jacksons, Lou Sharpton and Jesse Jackson not to mention Lewis Farrakan (Noam Chomsky anyone?). I also just remembered Ceasar Chavez and there are many more. One thing these people have in common is historical revisionism and self loathing, and those who toil honestly in the backround are never noticed or brushed off.

I don't know who this Primakow is, but it would surprise me if he was designated a Jew after he fell out of favor. No doubt he had to bow to his masters, like Andropov, and had little connection to anyone else.

What never ceases to amaze me is that so many choose to remain useful fools. Hopefully that is more of a generational thing and the toxic 60's generation will pass.

Then we can all get down to dealing with Islamofascism, if anyone is left.

 
At June 25, 2005 8:26 PM, Blogger Sylvia, Denver said...

Kledo,

Hi. I posted my second comment before I saw your comment on the KGB. You're right, that is somewhat arguable in a literal sense. Stalin was however connected to the Apparatus as it were.

Regardless, it is pure Russian politics. Only by understanding the internal mechanisms by which European totalitarians come to power can their rise be prevented.

 
At June 25, 2005 8:35 PM, Blogger Kledo said...

Hi Sylvia,

No offence. Mr. Primakov or (Primakow) caused a lot of controversy. I have found one of those less controversial articles:

KGB General Yevgeni Primakov, has been hired as a consultant by the US Department of Homeland Security.

Any time has its villains and heroes. We are the result of the Past :). Intolerant Islam will surely cause a lot of problems and could doom us, but we ourselves are our worst enemies.

BTW, you are from Denver - I've read that there is a lot of controversy about Latinos illegal immigration there. I would like to read your personal opinion.

 
At June 25, 2005 9:16 PM, Blogger Sylvia, Denver said...

Kledo,

I read the article concerning Primakov(?), and I would say that the source is questionable. Many people have issues with homeland security and The whole McChimpy thing, and unfortunately it looks like one of those sites. My guess is that homeland security (DHS) hires lots of folks (or bribes them for info) - or looks into that. I'm not sure that I would believe that article as it seems just to be a conservative think tank bashing. It's supposedly what this Primakov wants - not what he's going to get.

I haven't been following much of the local news lately in Denver. There's a big stink going on about illegal immigration period. The latest straw on the camel's back was a suspected cop killer - an illegal, that fled to Mexico. Those bastions of democracy and humane prisons - the Federales, took their sweet time to find the prick. ( Many suspected only because the Denver DA pitched a fit).

Then, the Mexican government had the gall to refuse to extradite him because the poor dear might face the death penalty if found guilty.

The general response to that was "Yeah, like how many people have gotten shot in the back in a Mexican prison, or been conveniently found face-down in a ditch down there".

Had the Federales found his poor, dead body that might have been understood that they wouldn't tolerate the criminal element that Fox's gov't seems to be pushing across the border.

People were pretty pissed. I haven't been following the rest of the story, however.

 
At June 25, 2005 9:32 PM, Blogger Kledo said...

Sylvia, thanks for your response. According to news.google.com your southern border to Mexico is pretty hot place and more and more people (even with minority backround) are upset because your officials are ignoring immigration problem.

Well this at least my impression.

To Mr. Primakov. Sylvia, you can use google or news.google.com to get more info about him. This is not a slur or suburban myth.

I'm from Eastern Europe, I used to live under communistic rule and I know this name and this person pretty good. Yes he simply was general and chairman of KGB and if he is now in charge of protecting your Freedom then let The Lord help you.

 
At June 25, 2005 10:05 PM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

"According to news.google.com your southern border to Mexico is pretty hot place and more and more people (even with minority background) are very upset because your officials are ignoring immigration problem."

A large majority of people in the U.S. are upset with the illegal immigration problem (regardless of race or ethnic group, even and especially legal immigrants). The exceptions are the illegal immigrants themselves, the far left, many business interests and certain religious organizations (including the Catholic church).

Most politicians want nothing to do with the problem. The state and local politicians blame the federal government (rightly so, it is a federal responsibility) and the federal politicians and officials just pretend it is not a problem.

When Islamic terrorist cross the border and kill thousands of people, THEN the federal government will do something -- of course, it will be too late.

 
At June 25, 2005 10:41 PM, Blogger Kledo said...

It is the same around the globe. In my country there is groving minority of Vietnamese. In their majority they are peaceful nonviolent people.

We have only one problem with them - they think that paying taxes is something "only for Whites".

 
At June 26, 2005 1:39 AM, Blogger Sylvia, Denver said...

Kledo,

I never did think that that this Primakov was a myth or anything. No doubt that he is an old KGB monster. No offence, but using sources like "Jew Watch" is a bit suspect. These are mostly conspirazoid sites 'Hidden Jewish ancestry", jeesh. This is like the old southern accusation of someone being 1/16 black just to smear them. It's a strawman, to stop people from looking at the Russian establishment.

Primakov appears to have fallen out of favor at some point. If he/it is out of favor then lets go looking for a Jew connection, like looking for or manufacturing a needle in a haystack - old European elitist trick to stop anyone from looking in their direction. Because Primakov was part of the apparatus, then all of this info is sourced from the Russian government. If Primakov was KGB, then very little real information is known about him.


As far as the US/Mexican border goes, I fully agree with Don Miguel.

 
At June 26, 2005 2:21 AM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

http://www.saveourstate.org/forums/index.php?s=0f6160d296d4e863d85ec9e5e178f0d5&act=idx

Here is a website on the illegal problem in California. By looking at this site, you get a better idea as to why Europe suppresses free speech. They dont want 'disturbanses'.- It is nearly a war zone.Its a good page to see what is going on in America.

Few if any in America hear whats going on in Europe, or care. The Danish thing was on a few times, but really, Americans dont view Europe as the homeland..., or even know where most countries are located...Fat, dumb ,rich and stupid, yup- welcome to
America
Time magazine ran a cover :"Latino Power"- Talk about RACIST, yet, a major news network ran that very cover. Sorry bout the runaway post Fjordman... I wont post my websites on the Jewish/Russian Communist thing....Heck, Hitler was Austrian, not German, and hijacked "Nordic" mythology for his own purpose.... =/

One must be careful in assessing cultures and violence. For example:

In America, when the Civil Rights movement pushed through favorable legsilation for Blacks, - Yes, violence against blacks went down, BUT VIOLENCE AGAINST WHITES WENT UP-commited by blacks. There were over 90,000 reported RAPES of Black on White (woment) last year, -(its about the statistical average for a year) And about 1000 reported rapes of Whites against Black (women)
These are FBI statistics...But it is clear that before the civil rights movement, this would NOT HAVE BEEN TOLERATED. Thats why you had lynchings in America. They were a reaction against BLACK VIOLENCE....
Norway had about 600 reported muslim gangrapes (per capita- what 5 million people in Norway?) America had 90,000 Black on White rapes. (Not sure of the Hispanic rape numbers, as they are counted as 'white' by the FBI.) per 290,000,000
If one group of muslims let women do what they wanted, it could lead to social kaos of all different types. Middle Eastern men, like Latino Macho-men here, have fragile male egos, and will never, I repeat NEVER see themselves as WEAK, and the EQUAL of women, as we do in the west...


I didn't realize rape, incest and murder are part of the "moral fabric" of society ... oh, sorry, I forgot -- he's talking about Islamic society! -Don Miguel

With enough MONEY, they would civilize a bit more, but as a MALE DOMINATED uneducated society, you get what you pay for....Islam was always against secular advancement...Always- too much TESTOSTERONE...

 
At June 26, 2005 5:11 AM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

From Fjordmans new post:
British men are being told to be alert to a condition that could "put them on the fast track to extinction". British men are being told to be alert to a condition that could "put them on the fast track to extinction". Symptoms of the "illness" that has been dubbed "mantropy" include a penchant for pedicures, fruit smoothies and small dogs. American Maxim, one of the biggest-selling men's magazines in the world, has defined mantropy as "a silent killer which strikes men in the prime of life". The magazine has been urging American men to be macho rather than manicured and to indulge their passion for cars rather than clothes. The campaign coincides with research that shows that men and women are being increasingly turned off by media images of well-groomed, feminine-looking men.

Exactly as stated abouve. If women are the equal of Men, then Men must be the equal of women.....

-Now,...? LMAO- Thanks Fjordman!

 
At June 26, 2005 5:18 AM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

"... Thats why you had lynchings in America. They were a reaction against BLACK VIOLENCE...."

Anyone over 50 who grew up in the U.S. south (and wasn't in the KKK or John Birch Society) could tell you that it is historically incorrect that lynchings were a reaction against black violence -- and capitalizing the letters doesn't change anything. The lynching (of blacks) was used to intimidate them into political, social, and economic submission. Only about 25% of black lynchings were due to black-on-white crime (whether real or perceived).

 
At June 26, 2005 4:00 PM, Blogger Kledo said...

Don Miguel and others,

well you know I'm not from USA but from Eastern Europe. And that is why I feel that I must address your comment on KKK.

During my life (even though I'm not so old) I lived through one major change in the interpretation of official history which led to overwriting of history schoolbooks, my parents lived through three such changes and my grandparents through five those episodes.

And that's the reason I think you are not talking about KKK. IMO you are talking about the KKK legend. This legend was created as a part of official mythology. This mythology is complete - it has its own villains, heroes and saints. :)

Im not trying to say that KKK was a bunch of pussycats but I simply do not believe in what they are being portrayed now.

Maybe you should open old albums with photos of your country/city/street before and after "multicultural enrichment". Then you will see who is the underdog and who is the winner.

 
At June 26, 2005 6:59 PM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

"And that's the reason I think you are not talking about KKK. IMO you are talking about the KKK legend. This legend was created as a part of official mythology."

Frankly, I don't care what you think you know about the KKK. I DO know the KKK. There is no "official mythology" or legend about the KKK. The only mythology I have heard of is the kind that you try to propagate.

"Maybe you should open old albums with photos of your country/city/street before and after "multicultural enrichment"."

I don't need to open old albums to know what happened (or read the books or watch the movies) -- I lived it! I saw cross burnings and houses being burned down. I lived close to where people were murdered for the crime of being "black." I not only saw the KKK in action, but I personally knew some of them.

I must admit you surprised me. I'm familiar with the revisionist historians that spew the Holocaust denial tripe, but this is the first time I've heard of KKK denial.

 
At June 26, 2005 8:21 PM, Blogger Kledo said...

Frankly, I don't care what you think you know about the KKK. I DO know the KKK. There is no "official mythology" or legend about the KKK. The only mythology I have heard of is the kind that you try to propagate.

I would like to see it! I want, I want, I want! :)

Please show me where I'm propagating an myth. I have written that I do not want to propagate KKK being supposedly "pussycats". I wanted simply to point out some things that happened on my continent and which I think are happening on your :).

But maybe that I've had bad luck and I have encountered one of those who are writting history textbooks ;).

I'm familiar with the revisionist historians that spew the Holocaust denial tripe, but this is the first time I've heard of KKK denial.

It is real, I've got in touch with SYSTEM. I've done it! :)

Well and East LA, South Chicago and Atlanta Center are very enjoyble multicultural place which makes us all so rich.

Please, Don Miguel.

But maybe we will be able to discuss in normal way, won't we?

I'm very curious about your experience with KKK! Feel free to say me more about that.

Kind regards, Kledo

 
At June 26, 2005 10:08 PM, Blogger Ethnocentrist said...

Regarding the Klan, they are neither the devil incarnate nor poor misunderstood peaceniks. The Klan started out as a purely defensive vigilante group that filled a void caused by the punative reconstruction imposed on the south which left the south without any real law and left southern Whites subject to abuse from Blacks and their puppet masters from the north backed by union troops. Over time and infiltration by not so honorable people, it led the Klan to do some very hideous things and I do agree with Don that a certain percentage of people were killed solely for being Black in the early to mid 20th century. However, the current indoctrination is to paint ALL of the Klan as evil subversives that are constantly skulking around to hurt Blacks or other non-Whites. This is not true, in my opinion. For if it was, they would not need to put on trial an 80 year old man for his crimes ~40 years ago. They would have fresh and daily examples of the evil. To me, the present Klan is toothless and powerless. They are kept in the limelight by anti-racist egalitarian Marxists to keep all Whites in check and not to step outside the egalitarian party line.

 
At June 26, 2005 10:34 PM, Blogger Ethnocentrist said...

{Jews} add to a nation's wealth, knowledge base and polity, unlike the practioners of Islam who usually detract from those things.

If Europe doesn't want its Jews, send 'em to us in the US. We'll take all you got.

The last time Europe decided to beat up on its Jews, we got Albert Einstein and most of the founders of the Golden Age of Hollywood out of the deal.
- Irene Adler

To use the Jewish vernacular, Oi Vey! :) Let's not get too carried away and if the choice was between Jew or Muslim, then Jew of course though I do find Muslims, when in a small group or one on one are very nice people. It is just that "crazy" religion of theirs that is very intolerant of pretty much everything and it is headed by very extreme individuals. So even if there are "moderate" Muslims, they have no voice due to the overbearing control of the extremists. I do not buy the "religion of peace" mantra that Islam is trying to be painted as either.

While I agree that Jews have more than their fair share of accomplishments and societal benefit, they also have been a thorn in White Christian societies side for eons as well. I'm not oblivious to the back and forth abuse from Christians towards Jews in history either. With that said, Jews have played an instrumental role in our decay as an American society over the last century. Here is a link that illustrates the role of Jewish influence on societies, including the US over time. It quotes a lot from Kevin MacDonald, the biggest Jew analyzer of our time. You can love him or hate him, but one cannot ignore some of his work. Some buy it whole, though I am not a complete follower. I think Jews played a role, and the role was quite influential though I do not view them as the SOLE reason and I do not put the ENTIRE blame on them. I think there is enough blame to go around as to why we are where we are. I blame White Liberal elites MORE as to the reasons we have such a huge mess racially than I do Jews. I know it is easy to blame Jews as a simple knee jerk reaction though we have to be honest about these very serious and delicate circumstances.

 
At June 27, 2005 3:35 PM, Blogger Kledo said...

Ethnocentrist, thanks for your explanation.

 

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