Saturday, April 16, 2005

One-third of Dutch people want to emigrate

A survey has indicated that 32 percent of Dutch people want to emigrate abroad and that just 51 percent are proud of the Netherlands. The survey by Amsterdam-based research bureau Signicom also found that 33 percent of Dutch nationals think that China will have greater power than the US and Europe combined in 10 years time. Some 443 people participated in the random sample survey, which also applied new techniques in which respondents were able to spontaneously give their reactions to certain subjects. This time the subject was the Netherlands and China.


At April 16, 2005 4:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not just that they want to, they actually do it aswell. In my place of origin , a small (fjord)village in in the northwest of norway. The population growth in the alst few years is largely accredited to dutch ex-pat families. Which has boosted the number of inhabitants past 1000 ;)

There are currently companies operating in norway that works resettle dutch people in faraway norwgian communities.

At April 16, 2005 5:08 PM, Blogger José María said...

This is completely ridiculous, do these people vote or not? are there no political party which represent at least partially their ideas? does dutch people have blood or brain?
You are becoming the clowns of Europe.

At April 16, 2005 5:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yea voting should be a more obvious solution. they even got Hirsi Ali, however I think she is isolated in her party, they might need a new party, where the leading and rational critics gather, and hopefully can come up with a program with viable ideas in all political fields.

Thomas Bolding Hansen

At April 16, 2005 6:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can call us clowns, and I for one will not argue with you. Each and everyone of us is responsible for letting islam thrive and grow in our beautiful and once great Europe. However, as regards the Netherlands, let us accept reality: It is lost. In fact, all three of the Benelux-countries, France, Sweden and probably Great Britain are already lost.

I am not one for defeatism, but I do not see the point in fighting a lost struggle either. Europe as a whole, however, is worth fighting for, and the battle is nearing.

At April 16, 2005 6:47 PM, Anonymous Jeff said...

Hopefully people won't just throw their hands up in despair, but the more people who do emigrate, the harder it becomes for those who choose to remain. I really hope Geert Wilders is given the chance to change things in the Netherlands, and I also hope more countries get their own Geert Wilders.

At April 16, 2005 7:09 PM, Blogger the adventuress said...

Hey guys, this is not a race issue; black Muslims beat up on their fellow black non-Muslims just as much they beat up on whites (see: Nigeria; Sudan), and the very white Chechnyan Muslims have no problems beating up on white non-Muslims (see: Beslan).

If we turn it into a race issue we'll lose the support of valuable people like Ibn Warraq and Hirsi Ali.

Islam has divided the world into kafffir and believer, the dar-al-Islam and the dar-al-Harb, not white and black.

At April 16, 2005 7:11 PM, Blogger the adventuress said...

whoops, sorry, I meant this comment for Mikkel's Enough blog, not for this one. Mea culpa. No one has posted anything about race here.

Two windows open at once, what an idiot I am.

At April 16, 2005 7:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hehe Irene.

It will be hard for Holland, and France, but I would not consider you lost, use your votes and voices for a start.

As for UK, it will never happen, they will not bow to anyone.

For Sweden it looks really bad because of the power and Kremlin mindset of the elite, but I actually predict a military coup there, coupled with some years of cleaning up in the country, kicking out immigrants commiting crime or having commited crime as well as fundamentalist moslems.

The big problem lies in the world as a whole, in the rising power of China and it´s ambition of taking Taiwan, and the growing population in the hateful Arab world.

Thomas Bolding Hansen

At April 18, 2005 6:28 AM, Anonymous J.S. Kern said...

While it's hard to fault the Dutchmen who fear the on-coming Dhimmitude for choosing flight over fight (after all, even Queen Beatrix is colaborating with the Islamists!), I'm curious as to where they will go. Since ALL of Europe's elites seem hell-bent on ignoring the slow-motion Muslim invasion of their nations, nowhere looks safe. Surely this report isn't suggesting they're viewing Red China as an option?

As well, do all 32 percent of the Dutch wanting to leave cite the same motivations for emigration? If so, and it's the Muslim threat, then perhaps this is a good sign. Maybe the message is finally getting through to Jann Six-pack. Maybe, if enough want to leave but can't, they'll start voting accordingly.

I'm not optimistic though, I think it more likely that, in the near future, instead of a change of government and the institution of mass deportations of Muslims, we'll read a report telling us that 32 percent of the feminized tree-huggers running Holland have realized the Netherlands is a lost cause and that they're eyeing up property in Texas....

Oh, and as for the UK not bowing to anyone, read Mark Steyn or Melanie Phillips for up to date reports on how servile to Islam Britain has already become, and how shamefully impotant the average Briton is to resist.

At April 18, 2005 2:12 PM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

The USA is almost just as bad. We have South America taking over.Have you heard of the Minuteman Project? You wont see that in Britain anytime soon.But we have a core of people who are resisting...And talk radio is doing an OK job...
China must be laughing, they are stealing our technology, and will be the main power in the second half of the century. I will talk about this on my blog, theBadMonkey Radio Free America.

At April 18, 2005 9:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The funny thing is after 9/11 we started talking much more about the "clash of civilisations" And much less about the "Rise and fall of the Roman empire"

The people behind Project for a New American Century understand what´s coming better than most and try to make this an American century, but spite all their efforts China is rising to prominence probably even before 2050, and with a an Arab world doubling itself in less than 20 years and tensions and hate not becoming less, this might be closer to the "rise and fall of the Roman empire" than anything else.

USA can´t fullfill this without allies, again they realize this in PNAC, It is time for us to regain pace and for a union of the western civilization and democratic countries working for democracy around the globe and free trade and development through that.

Thomas Bolding Hansen

At April 19, 2005 12:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

China is indeed going to be a world power in the economic sense. It seems to be a given that this will translate to political power in the global sense.

I have some doubts that this will happen. Firstly, China has never in its history, shown any interest outside of its kingdom and the very near. Chinese character has been first and foremost inward looking rather then an outward looking global one.

In addition, China just does not have an ideology, culture, language of influence and global appeal that the English speaking world has. The UK handed to the US, a world ripe for US influence. This just does not exist for China.

It is instructive to consider the case of Japan, which in the seventies and eighties, was considered to be a nation that would soon challenge the US. Nothing of the sort happened, for much the same reasons that hold true for China now.

As for muslims and Arabs. Islam does indeed have global ambitions, but they are not in keeping with the reality of muslim/arab capabilities. Muslims have just one real productive output, and that is a large birth rate. As long as they can offload their excess populations on the West, they have influence in the West. However, this influence is very sensitive to any change of policy in the West. If the West shuts down the immigration of muslims, that very large birth rate of muslims, becomes a fatal liability. Muslims, like Africans will have the numbers but have no real clout, either economic or military.

The reason that so many amongst us are a little apprehensive, is that we are participant to large changes occuring in the world order. A new world order is coming about. The spat between Japan and China is an indication of this. This new world order is necessary as the old order that was designed post WWII, has now outlived its usefullness. The good thing is that this new world order is being defined mainly by the West and no one else. The bickering we see between "Old Europe" and the US and the UK, are just a manifestation of this monopoly that the West has on defining the new world order. China, Russia, Japan and the muslims are mere bystanders.

As for the Dutch who are fleeing their beautiful country -Where will you go? Muslims are everywhere now. Atleast in Holland you are native to it, and have a claim on the land that you will never have in any other land. If any people can claim a tie to the land, then it must be the Dutch. If it were'nt for you Dutch, the land would be under the sea. So how on earth can you leave a land that you have virtually created? Stay and reclaim what is yours by right.


At April 19, 2005 7:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can join this discussion with Dutch people also on

We do it in English and look forward to international input on this subject.


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