Monday, June 27, 2005

Is China a Fascist State?

Is China a Fascist state? I've heard several observers compare China now to European Fascist states in the 1920s and 1930s:

Chinese dragon awakens

China's economy has been growing at a rate of at least 10 percent for each of the past 10 years, providing the country's military with the needed funds for modernization. The combination of a vibrant centralized economy, growing military and increasingly fervent nationalism has transformed China into what many defense officials view as a fascist state. "We may be seeing in China the first true fascist society on the model of Nazi Germany, where you have this incredible resource base in a commercial economy with strong nationalism, which the military was able to reach into and ramp up incredible production," a senior defense official said. For Pentagon officials, alarm bells have been going off for the past two years as China's military began rapidly building and buying new troop- and weapon-carrying ships and submarines. The release of an official Chinese government report in December called the situation on the Taiwan Strait "grim" and said the country's military could "crush" Taiwan. "The China military buildup has been accelerating since 1999. As the buildup has gotten worse, China is trying hard to mask it."

China throws down gauntlet to USA Inc

China is also a major holder of US debt. Put simply, the US is in hock to the Chinese to such an extent that if all the bills were called in at once, Uncle Sam would be bust. It's not in China's interests to destabilise the world economy at the moment, but circumstances change. Beijing might just like to keep that card - a financial nuclear option - up its sleeve for some future geopolitical crisis.


At June 27, 2005 3:36 PM, Blogger Reliapundit said...

fascism (a term/movement coined by benito juarez mussolini) was a variant of socialism - as was Nazism (which after all stood for national socialist workers party).

the war fought between - on the one side - hitler and mussolini, and on the other side STALIN

was an internecine battle, not unlike the clash between trotsky and stalin - only on a more horrifying scale.

therefore it is NO NEWS that communist shina is "fascistic".

in fact, the concetp that left is commie and right is nazi/fasci is nothing more than commie propaganda. (which FDR used to assuage the public because we used stalin to defeat hitler).

in the traditional poltical spectrum,. commies are on the lef and nazis on the right. (and democracies with mixed staes/varying degrees of sociaism go in the middle). BUT THEN. WHERE DO YOU LOGICALLY PLACE ANARCHISM!? it has no where to go.


Mixed demcracies/welfare staes go in the middle.

The Left - who dominated/still the academy - did not want their ideology to be associsated woith Hitler or Mussolini, that's why they invented the illogival model - which is a vestige of the 1930's.

It's LONG passed time we junked it.

The Chicoms and Hitler and Schroeder and Teddy Kennedy and UBL are all statists of one degree or another. And that's the FUNDAMENTAL reason why they must all be opposed.

At June 27, 2005 4:21 PM, Blogger Meme chose said...

Given the extent of China's dependence on trade and raw materials sourced from abroad, we are safe as long as China proves to be prudent about who it attacks.

Unfortunately a moment's reflection reveals that the track record of fascist states is exactly the opposite of reassuring in this respect.

At June 28, 2005 5:16 AM, Blogger theBadMonkey said...

So if they want Taiwan in a few years, they can have it, and use the debt issue as Blackmail.

God, I looooove our politicians.Americans, well, all the servant classes, are just too stupid and ignorant of world politics to care.

Marx said: "Religion is the opiate of the people!"

BAdmonkey says: "Capatilism is the Opiate of the people." They are so fat, stupid and lazy, they care not about 1 year ahead, lest 5 or 10....

At June 28, 2005 7:09 AM, Blogger Zach said...

"Capitalism is the Opiate of the people"

I fear that there is something to that. Call it capitalism, materialism, or whatever. It simply boggles one's mind that we are willfully sending money to China so they can create weapons to probably use against us or our allies.

At June 28, 2005 8:09 AM, Blogger ik said...

Here is what an Indian author wrote (It was written in 1997)

"Consider: in 1939, the Germans invaded Czechoslovakia's Suedetenland on the flimsy pretext that ethnic Germans lived there; the world sacrificed Czechoslovakia to placate the Germans (remember Neville Chamberlain mouthing pious platitudes?). In 1959, the Chinese invaded Tibet on the flimsy pretext that it had once been part of a Han empire; the world sacrificed Tibet to placate the Chinese (remember Krishna Menon mouthing pious platitudes?)"

"Europeans will one day wake up to the fact that when China talks about its historical claims -- as dubious as that on Tibet -- it is talking about the old Mongol empire of Genghiz Khan and Kublai Khan. This empire extended, if I remember correctly -- (search the web for the current exhibition at the San Francisco Asian Art Museum) -- all the way to the outskirts of Vienna. Never mind the Mongols are not, strictly speaking, Han Chinese. Details, details."

At June 28, 2005 8:13 AM, Blogger ik said...

Here is something predicted in 1998

"In my opinion, China is a dangerously explosive mix of great pride and memories of great humiliation: a surefire recipe for fascism -- almost exactly like Germany between the two World Wars. China remembers its imperial glory, and the vanity that it was the "Middle Kingdom" -- and all foreigners were gwailo inferior foreign devils whom it despised. China also remembers the ignominy heaped on it by European and Japanese conquerors, and it harbours notions of repaying them in kind.

And China appears to be obsessed with lebensraum, space to live, space for political and economic domination. This was precisely the rationale for German imperialists who attacked the Sudetenland; and Japanese imperialists who conquered parts of China. Now the Chinese are using it to justify their heinous acts there.

China needs lebensraum for its teeming, surplus Han Chinese population, and has settled such large numbers of them in Tibet that Tibetans are now a distinct minority in their own land. The Tibetan Web site also documents how the water table in Tibet (which feeds many of Asia's rivers: the Indus, the Ganges, the Mekong, and the Brahmaputra) is threatened with nuclear waste by the Chinese. The Tibetan high plateau has become a nuclear dumping ground; furthermore, the Chinese appear to have set up a number of their long-range missiles with nuclear warheads in the plateau, aimed at India."

At June 28, 2005 6:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

China has serious demographic problems thanks to its "one child only" population control policy from 30 years ago. (Most people chose boys as their "one child", so there's now a serious shortage of marriageable age women in China.)

In addition, they are facing the same problems as Western Europe: A huge number of older people who must be supported by a much smaller number of younger ones.


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