Sunday, September 25, 2005

India toes US line, dumps Iran

India toes US line, dumps Iran

They are five sentences that signal a fundamental change in Indian foreign policy of over five decades. In an overt and transparent shift in alignment and emphasis, the Congress-led UPA government of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Friday signed up with the United States on a touchstone issue, asking Iran to be flexible and make concessions to avoid a confrontation with Washington on the nuclear issue. India’s blunt message, which is also aimed at allaying U.S concerns over New Delhi’s long-standing ties with Teheran, was conveyed by Prime Minister Singh to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinijad when the latter telephoned him on Friday. In fact, the UPA government went to unusual lengths to disclose the gist of the conversation between the two leaders in a brief press release sent to select media. The government statement read: "The Prime Minister received a phone call from President Ahmadinejad of the Islamic Republic of Iran at the Iranian request. The (Iranian) President raised the issue about Iran's nuclear programme in the IAEA. Prime Minister advised him that Iran should consider taking a flexible position so as to avoid a confrontation. The Prime Minister repeated the necessity for Iran to make concessions to this end. India supports the resolution of all issues through discussion and consensus in the IAEA." Seldom, if ever, has the government been so direct and candid in conveying a foreign policy shift through an episode some American policy analysts saw as a test case for India-U.S ties.


At September 25, 2005 4:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At September 25, 2005 8:13 AM, Blogger Mike H. said...

Well ns, they are Hindu and Buddist and Sharia only allows dhimmi status for those two religions I think. The question is, are others allowed to be dhimmis besides the people of the book?

At September 26, 2005 8:12 AM, Blogger ik said...


You need to read up on some history of India

Here are some free books

In particular here is the history of our "interaction" with Islam

At September 26, 2005 9:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the links ik, I appreciate it. I didn't mean to offend anyone, so please accept my apology. I was looking at this from a somewhat jaded and cynical viewpoint to be sure. I know that India has suffered/suffers greatly from a long history of Islamic conflict/abuse. I guess I was looking at it from the business side of things--pragmatist that I am. Since Teheran and New Delhi have had a mutually rewarding (business) relationship it seemed improbable to me that India would want to jeopordize this. Taken strictly at face value, the statements by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh were courageous and a breath of fresh air to those wanting someone to stand up to the Islamic bullys of the world.

Although I have to question how this lines up with a statement by Singh:

On the nuclear issue, Singh was quoted on an official Iranian website as saying,
"We support Iran's pursuit of its peaceful nuclear energy program in keeping with its international obligations and commitments."

At September 27, 2005 8:37 AM, Blogger ik said...


About the Indian PM's statement

Tell me what is wrong with nuclear power? If as predicted by people like Matthew Simmons - oil peak is a couple of years away (he is not a moonbat but a conservative investment advisor)

"Matthew Simmons has been a key advisor to the Bush Administration, Vice President Cheney's 2001 Energy Task Force and the Council on Foreign Relations. An energy investment banker, Simmons is the CEO of Simmons and Co. International, handling an investment portfolio of approximately $56 billion. He has served previously on the faculty of Harvard Business School. Among Peak Oil researchers he is known for two seemingly contradictory things: being a staunch supporter of George W. Bush and his policies and probably the only outspoken insider to talk openly about Peak Oil."

He also has a book on Saudi oil "reserves" - check it on
Twilight in the Desert: The Coming Saudi Oil Shock and the World Economy

If this comes true the only remaining option is nuclear energy (My personal favorite is Solar Cells - completely decentralized power infrastructure with no dependence on government) is still 30-40 years away.

Surely there must be a way to produce nuclear energy with full safeguards?

About India's relationship with Iran - the relationship went cold with th e Islamic revolution - but went warm after Taliban took over in Afghanistan (since Taliban organized mass extermination of Shias - and made Hindus/Sikhs wear yellow scarves on themselves/their houses)

It was India/Iran/Russia (each for their own reasons) that kept the Northern Alliance alive when the west had forgotten about Afghanistan.

There is regular killing of Shias in Pakistan ( there are hardly any Hindus/Christians left to exterminate) - hence the alliance. Iran has an agreement with India which allows us to use Iranian military bases if we are attacked by Pakistan.
The US on the other hand sells F-16's (can they go inside AQ caves?), P3 Orion Anti Submarine Warfare aircraft (Does AQ have submarines? or are they to be used against Kyrgyzstan?) to Pakistan. The US also has a MNNA treaty with Pakistan (which by the way was one of the factors that sank our "right wing" party in the last elections) which as far as I know (I would love to be proved wrong) - means that any war between India and Pakistan - US is obliged by MNNA treaty to support Pakistan.

Having said that I believe that Indian government made the right decision for the simple reason that you can never trust a Muslim country


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