Tuesday, July 19, 2005

Socialists in Europe - Electing a New People?

I've mentioned here before I am planning to write an essay about the Islamic-Socialist connections in several European countries, whenever I have the time. I know for sure that in countries such as Norway and Denmark, the vast majority of immigrants vote for leftist parties. As one Muslim in Norway put it: "The Socialists give me more money". Socialists in turn are courting immigrants, and in essence electing a new people, replacing the one already there with one more supportive of their agenda. I'm interested in getting links documenting this from my readers, from different countries. The links should be in English or Scandinavian languages, or provided with a short translation and summary.

Leftists never lost the Cold War. They've just been regrouping and hiding their former goals in a new, multicultural wrapping.

14 Comments:

At July 20, 2005 3:45 AM, Blogger RobertinArabia said...

You might find this article by a leading Zionist scholar enlightening.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/back1301.html

The Jewish Stake in America's
Changing Demography
Reconsidering a Misguided Immigration Policy

October 2001

By Stephen Steinlight

Download the .pdf version

 
At July 20, 2005 9:44 AM, Blogger Fjordman said...

Robert: Do you have any links not involving Jews? I don't share your obsession, which is getting rather tedious.

 
At July 20, 2005 4:42 PM, Blogger Rune said...

Did you see this from Uriasposten:
"Hanne Andersen [Social Democrat]: The solution to the social democratic bankruptcy is a change of population.

[...]
I have for many years been of the opinion and said that it is incomprehensible that some people (especially from Danish Peoples Party) thinks they have a greater right that other people to be on a specific part of the earth.
All people, all over the world, which have respect for others, their religion, culture, history and other values have, as far as I’m concerned, an equal right to be wherever they wish.
[...]"

From here

He also quotes this (sarcastic) poem by Bertolt Brechts (my translation – bad you can probably find the original poem):

"After the riot den 17th June
The secretary of the Writers Guild
Handed out flyers on the Stalin Rd.
On which it was written, that the people
Had wasted the governments trust
And only by doubling their effort
Could hope to re-earn it. Was it not
Simpler, if the government abolished
The people, and elected a new one?"

 
At July 20, 2005 5:01 PM, Blogger Evan said...

Ken Livingstone says that the West is responsible for Islamic radicalism.

I am not aware of any other great civilization that has ever been so in the throes of self-loathing.

 
At July 20, 2005 5:05 PM, Blogger erp said...

Fjordman, I must disagree that Left has been hiding their former goals in a new, multicultural wrapping because it's been obvious for a very long time and at least since the 60's it's been pretty blatant here in the U.S. that multiculturalism is a tool of the left, as is affirmative action, income redistribution, the dumbing down of the public school system among other things with the end goal the destruction of western civiilization and American style economic and personal freedom.

Multiculuralism is a euphemism for divide and conquer. In the US, we had and hope we will have again soon, a melting pot. We’re all Americans, but we also look different, have lots of different customs, yummy food, old country traditions, etc. The Left wants us all to be hyphenated Americans and instead of all of us pledging our allegiance to our country, we’re supposed to relate only to our race, religion, ethnicity, etc. and they’re busy pitting all these different multi-culties against each other.

The fundamentalist Islamic movement also has its goal of the destruction of western civilization, so it isn't surprising that the Left in all their incarnations: the hippy-dippy cold war warriors; human rights groups; gun control; the anti-war nutcases; multiculties; the trade unions; the gay/lesbian group; the feminists; the environmentalists; the PETA people, etc. would want to ally themselves with Muslim terrorism.

I've purposely left out the irrational hatred of Israel and Jews -- the driving force in Islam because I'm reluctant to tar everyone on the Left with sharing this hatred as well, but the more I find out about them, the clearer it becomes, that anti-Semitism is part of the Left's world view and another issue that draws them towards Islam.

Of course, the Left is too blinded by hatred to see that if their dreams come true, they would be annihilated by their new friends along with the rest of us infidels. Allah akbar.

 
At July 20, 2005 8:04 PM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

erp:

You might be interested in this, which fits in with your post:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18816

fjordman:

For some reason, your blog attracts a few people that seem to bring up Jews and/or race in every post.

 
At July 20, 2005 8:49 PM, Blogger Fjordman said...

"fjordman: For some reason, your blog attracts a few people that seem to bring up Jews and/or race in every post."

I've noticed, an I am growing a bit tired of it. I am torn between the "free speech" ideal and just common decency. I deleted one comment about interracial marriages which I thought was in bad taste. I will start deleting Robert's comments, too, if he posts his pointless, anti-Semitic spam again and again.

Go troll somewhere else!

 
At July 20, 2005 9:00 PM, Blogger Fjordman said...

Rune: Yes, I noticed that insane quote. Telling, isn't it?

I believe Lenin (or Stalin?) said that borders between Soviet Republics were unimportant, as Socialism would transcend all national and religious bonds and render them a thing of the past. Socialists still haven't given up that ideal, after a century of failures.

 
At July 20, 2005 10:02 PM, Blogger Fjordman said...

Rune: I think the original quote is something like this:

"The solution
After the uprising of 17 June
The Secretary of the Writers' Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the People
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?"
after June 1953 DDR events

 
At July 20, 2005 10:51 PM, Blogger the adventuress said...

Yes, it's interesting that Socialism and the Ummah both have the same ideal: abolishing nation states.

No wonder the Left and the jihadists are such cozy bedfellows these days.

 
At July 20, 2005 11:03 PM, Blogger Fjordman said...

Very true, Irene. I'm searching for the exact quote by Lenin (?) about the insignificance of borders, but haven't found it yet.

 
At July 20, 2005 11:55 PM, Blogger Tor Inge Vevatne said...

Sounds like an interesting paper, but some things would go in the wrong direction for the socialists. Imigrants tends to not be in favour of such things abortion, gay-rights etc. Perhaps it's even better for Christian's Peoples Party.

Anyway, making a mulitcultural society, will bring in excellent arguements for destroing all traditonal values in norway, and replace it with secular relativisme, which ends out in nothing.

 
At July 21, 2005 12:09 AM, Blogger Fjordman said...

"making a mulitcultural society, will bring in excellent arguements for destroing all traditonal values in norway"

That is the same logic behind Mao's thinking in China during the Cultural Revolution. The past needed to be destroyed, even physically, to wipe the slate clean and pave the way for the Socialist revolution. The Western, Judeo-Christian and capitalist civilization has proved resistant to Socialism. It needs to be undermined through immigration, to make way for the Socialist transition.

 
At July 21, 2005 8:18 AM, Blogger ik said...

In India The Congress Party/Communists openly encourage illegal Bangladeshi immigrants to settle in India and then provide them with necessary identity papers to win in elections. They delberately target districts so that they can turn the balance. There are at present 20 million illegal Bangladeshi immigrants in India (and Bangladesh is a Talibanised society - although this fact is not reported widely in the Western press - so we have 20 million potential Talebans floating around in India)

The biggest tragedy that happened was that the Hindu nationalists got elected with a promise to stop this nonsense and then forgot about their promises once they won the elections (several reasons - they were scared of the media, they were also trying to attract muslim votes). This is one thing that Europeans must be very careful about. It is not very farfetched because if you notice that President Bush is not doing anything about illegal Mexican immigrants.

Eventually there will be a realization that there is no way to tackle Islam within a democratic framework (I hope I am wrong on this one)

Since this was not about Europe I did not post any links.

 

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