Wednesday, August 03, 2005

Muslims who hate us can get out, says Tory

Why did the Brits re-elect Labour and Tony Blair?

Muslims who hate us can get out, says Tory

MUSLIMS who resent the British way of life should leave the UK, regardless of whether they are citizens or not, a senior Conservative said last night in comments that have heightened already tense community relations. Gerald Howarth, the shadow defence minister, last night told The Scotsman that extremist Muslims who see the Iraq war as a conflict against Islam should be considered as treacherous as Soviet sympathisers during the Cold War. His remarkable claim shatters the tri-party consensus which Michael Howard, the Tory leader, sought to make with Tony Blair, the Prime Minister, and the Liberal Democrats. Mr Howarth said yesterday that he is incensed by suggestions from Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, that Britain is "part of the problem" in Iraq - and said that the problem in the UK lies in fanatical Muslims living within our shores. He is the first mainstream UK politician to suggest that extremist British Muslims should leave for Islamic societies. The government is looking at deporting foreign-born nationals and imprisoning British Muslims who incite or glorify terrorism.

From January 2005:

Somalis exiting Netherlands for Britain

An estimated 20,000 Dutch Somalis have left the Netherlands for Britain over the past five years, escaping a multicultural model once touted as the most enlightened in the world. Somali Muslim families are moving en masse to Leicester and Birmingham in England from the industrial cities of Tilburg and Rotterdam in the Netherlands. The exodus is linked to the anti-Muslim feeling that burst into the open with the advent of Pim Fortuyn, the populist politician who was fatally shot and whose party crushed the Dutch establishment in the 2002 elections.


At August 03, 2005 12:59 PM, Blogger RobertinArabia said...

According to The Times (27/07): "The ethnic mix of the eight London bombers, ranging from young Somalis to Yorkshire-born sons of Pakistani parents and an Anglo-Jamaican convert, has surprised investigators."

Finally we have proof positive that multiculturalism is alive and well among the suicide bomber community. Such a vibrant, rainbow mix of idealistic young men from such a diverse spread of races and cultures, all uniting in Britain to bring another new development to our once boring country.

Doesn't it make you feel proud?

Thanks Tony, John, Maggie, James, Ted, Harold - and all the other Prime Ministers and politicians of all parties who have spent the last 50 years bringing us 'diversity'.

At August 03, 2005 3:12 PM, Blogger felix said...

Hooray Gerald Howarth!.
So how can we get this guy to replace Michael Howard, the Tory leader.

At August 03, 2005 6:08 PM, Blogger Zach said...

Gerald Howarth is displaying some excellent common sense. Let us hope that more start to do the same.

At August 03, 2005 10:56 PM, Blogger PD111 said...

A terrific article by Horsefeathers



At August 03, 2005 11:46 PM, Blogger PD111 said...

Anas Altikriti also questioned to which country Mr Howarth proposed Muslims should go, as there were no Muslim countries as such, just Muslim people.

There are some 55 countries that belong to the Organisation of Islamic countries. But I know what Anas Altikriti is really saying here. He does not think that any one of the 55 are muslim enough. In his view there are no muslim countries and the one that was, Afghanistan, is not one anymore due to the perfidy of US and the UK. This was the excuse that Omar Bakri used when he was asked why he did not go to a muslim country where he would be happy.

The fact is that they are here to wage Jihad, and what better location to wage Jihad from, then from within, all the while living on the welfare of the "victim" state and claiming to be victims of Islamophobia.

What is really wrong with muslim society as a whole, is that they have never been able to take responsibility for their actions. It is always some one else's fault. A response of a typical slave.

There is so much wrong with islamic society that one does not know where to start the reformation.


At August 03, 2005 11:48 PM, Blogger PD111 said...

It is also possible that Anas Altikriti means that the there is no calliphate at the moment.


At August 04, 2005 12:59 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

DP111: You have to have a base of some kind to make reforms. Islam has none whatsoever.

At August 04, 2005 6:40 AM, Blogger Jack said...

The Tories are definitely getting gung ho. Finally the British right feels safe enough to break away from Labor-lite.

At August 04, 2005 8:10 AM, Blogger Ole said...

pd111- Thanks for the referal to Horsefeathers his article "ARAB DEMOCRACY IS STILL THE MOTHER OF ALL OXYMORONS" is very enlightening.

At August 04, 2005 10:06 AM, Blogger Kledo said...

Conservative party is "Islamic values are Conservative values" party.

Fjordman, you are wasting your time with them.

They are able to launch a project "move the Somaliland to the UK" in order to improve UK "diversity" and "multiculturalism". They are lost souls.

At August 04, 2005 11:12 PM, Blogger PD111 said...

These terrorsits attacks have completely destabilised the political spectrum in Britain, despite Churchillian words from the political elite.

The Labour party with Tony Blair, is strong on spin but never has been strong on real actions. Apart from Iraq, Tony Blair has been the model of dhimmitude.

As for the Conservatives - they have departed from the political scene altogether, and are in the Transmeditation world. These terror attcks and what they portend, was real meat for the Conservatives, and yet they like Labour, have distinguished themselves by their cowardice in the face of an existential enemy.

Words are insufficient to describe the cowardice of the political elite. Only some papers such as the Daily Mail and The Telegraph, have shown any sense of courage.

Meanwhile ordinary Brits are bemused and many confused, inundated as we are to the PC lies from the elite and the BBC.


At August 04, 2005 11:22 PM, Blogger PD111 said...

The only ones telling the truth are the Islamists.

What will it take to make Britain, the rest of Europe and America to wake up. Is this slumber or is the patient already dead. So should we be conducting a post-mortem for Civilisation?

I have hope. Not from the political elite but from ordinary people. They, the disparaged and mocked by the BBC, who unencumbered with PC and ultra-liberalism, will make their presence felt. It will of course get nasty, which is something that could be avoided if only the elite stop hiding the menace that we are confronted with.


At August 04, 2005 11:36 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

DP111: I still have hope, or really believe, we will win in the end. But I have lost hope it will be done without lots of blood being shed.

At August 04, 2005 11:42 PM, Blogger PD111 said...


It will get nasty, specially as the elite have been disparaging and mocking the ordinary decent people of Britain, as nothing but racists. The anger is there. All it takes is for a fuse, and that is why the BBC and the political elite are damping the fuse with RoP nonsense etc.



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