Sunday, July 24, 2005

The Norwegian Government - Covering Up Immigrant Rapes

Note: Update to this post here: Rape: Nothing to do with Islam?

I've touched upon this subject several times here, and I will continue doing so until the problem has been acknowledged and dealt with. I got inspiration to write another post about this after reading once again about the horrific gang rapes by Muslim immigrants of Australian girls in Sydney, this time brought up by LittleGreenFootballs:

Sydney's Gang Rape Trial

They are probably the most violent, prolific gang rapists Sydney has known, with as many as 18 young victims. But until now the extent of the horrific crimes of four brothers from Pakistan has been kept secret. Yesterday, more than three years after they went on a six-month rampage, luring girls as young as 13 to their home in Ashfield to rape them, suppression orders forbidding publication of their trial details were lifted. The brothers, who came to Australia from Pakistan around 2000, had claimed in the face of damning DNA evidence that they were the victims of an anti-Muslim conspiracy. The eldest brother feigned mental illness, they sacked numerous lawyers and aborted trials to ensure delays as they tried to wear down the victims who had agreed to testify. The rapes of at least eight girls took place mostly in the brothers’ Ashfield home between January and July 2002. The girls were invited to a “party”, but would arrive at the house, which was strewn with rubbish and plastered with posters of semi-naked girls, to find no other females there. Some victims were repeatedly raped at knifepoint and told they would be killed if they went to police. The brothers videotaped their rapes, and the tapes show another dozen possible victims. The police have not been able to find them all and some did not want to come forward.

Here are statistics published by the police in Oslo, Norway, September 2001:

Oslo rape statistics shock

Two out of three charged with rape in Norway's capital are immigrants with a non-western background according to a police study. The number of rape cases is also rising steadily.The study is the first where the crime statistics have been analyzed according to ethnic origin. Rape charges in the capital are spiraling upwards, 40 percent higher from 1999 to 2000 and up 13 percent so far this year. Police Inspector Gunnar Larsen of Oslo's Vice, Robbery and Violent crime division says the statistics are surprising - the rising number of rape cases and the link to ethnic background are both clear trends. But Larsen does not want to speculate on the reasons behind the worrying developments. While 65 percent of those charged with rape are classed as coming from a non-western background, this segment makes up only 14.3 percent of Oslo's population. Norwegian women were the victims in 80 percent of the cases, with 20 percent being women of foreign background.

There is every reason to believe that the numbers were real, as Denmark published almost identical statistics at the same time:

Criminologist: immigrants are rape champions

If one leading expert is to be believed, the sharp rise in the number of rapes in this over the last 5 years is largely attributable to a group of unemployed and alienated immigrants. 'Over the last 5-10 years there has an increasing tendency to marginalise and alienate immigrants,' says Professor Flemming Balvig, a criminologist at Copenhagen University. 'As a result, many second generation immigrants have reacted against this through various types of criminal activity, including rape.'

Muslim rape concern

Alarmed at last week's police statistics, which revealed that in 68% of all rapes committed this year the perpetrator was from an ethnic minority, leading Muslim organisations have now formed an alliance to fight the ever-growing problem of young second and third-generation immigrants involved in rape cases against young Danish girls.

The situation in Sweden is probably even worse, but statistics have never been made public.

The numbers published in September 2001 were discussed in at least to out of Norway's three largest newspapers: Aftenposten and Dagbladet. A leading member of the Liberal Party (Venstre), Odd Einar Dørum, demanded all the numbers be put on the table: "A scumbag is a scumbag, regardless of skin color".

Four years later, Dørum is Minister of Justice, and nobody has seen these statistics since 2001. The number of rape charges in Oslo have continued to rise, reaching record levels in 2004. There is ample evidence of brutal gang rapes, something that used to be rare in Scandinavia, being committed by immigrants against native girls. For instance, 21st of July, three men were charged with gang raping a 15-year-old Norwegian girl, who was dragged into a car while waiting for a bus at the bus station in the town of Fredrikstad. All the men were of "foreign origin". Such cases have become almost routine. The only possible explanation for why we are no longer presented statistics showing the percentage of immigrants involved in this is that the government is covering it up. Usually, this would have made the media demand that the Minister of Justice should resign. This has not happened, although I know several journalists have been reading the posts I have made about this topic, both in English and in Norwegian. To make matters worse, while Norwegian women are increasingly unsafe in their own capital, we hear calls for even more immigration, and 85 % of our MPs pass a law saying that we are guilty of discriminating against immigrants until proven otherwise.

We have national elections on the 12th of September. And right now, I'm embarrassed to come from this nation.


At July 24, 2005 3:23 PM, Blogger Thomas Bolding Hansen said...

Check this out, do you really need low skilled labour that much ?

And where would you get it from ? North Africa ?

Link is in Danish:


Summary: Norwegian Foreign ministry leader claims Norway need immigrants to fill holes in the low skilled labour force. A politician from Denmark, probably with a tint of irony, suggest that they cooperate with Denmark then, since we got excess of such labour force.

At July 24, 2005 6:19 PM, Blogger bordergal said...

Why doesn't Scandanavia import Hindus from India, or start reaching out to Christian Hispanics in North America? Or Chinese/Vietnamese workers, and Phillipinos, or Christian Africans?

Their cultures and beliefs are much more compatible with yours then Islamic cultures (However, the caveat remains that there has to be an assimilation program, a strong one).

There ARE decent options to Muslim immigration. It sounds to me like they are more much trouble then they are worth. Change your worker outreach to reflect this.

At July 24, 2005 6:32 PM, Blogger bordergal said...

The more I think about this, the more I think that workers from the Phillipines are a wonderful idea.

It would deprive the Saudis of their greatest source of abused house slaves (spit), stop the Muslim invasion of Scandanavia, and provide employment to a warm and wonderful (although poor) people-all with a simple policy change.

Three for one!

At July 24, 2005 7:12 PM, Blogger bordergal said...

Not my intent. You CAN approach the problem by keeping your population stable, rather then allowing it to decline. If you don't have enough children for replacement, you are putting your society at risk. Demographics can be changed in your favor...

You also don't have to offer permanent residence to foreign workers. If you don't have enough native born Europeans, allow foreign workers from SAFE societies to come for a certain period of time, save up money, and return to their homeland in better financial shape then they left. The foreign workers would be able to invest in their own less developed countries with their savings, so everyone would win. That's the second option.

At July 24, 2005 7:23 PM, Blogger bordergal said...

BTW, isn't the unemployment rate in Europe relatively high?
If so, why are outside workers even needed?

At July 24, 2005 10:36 PM, Blogger erp said...

ch is right. Turning people into useless slovens is easy. Give them just enough to get by without effort and that's exactly what they will do. The next generation, knowing no other way, will continue that life.

The suggestion to bring in alien workers from Latin America or the Philippines is a very good one. Our Hispanic workers, whether legal or illegal, are family oriented, hard workers and honest. They want to become Americans and I for one, say we should welcome them.

Muslims on the other hand have self-selected for violence and brutality. Let the oil rich countries spread the wealth around and hire their own co-religionaists to work for them.

At July 24, 2005 11:34 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

"There is a strong bureacratic desire to keep such programs running"

I like to think of it as the "multicultural industry".

At July 25, 2005 12:44 AM, Blogger bordergal said...

I've heard that the new immigrants are needed to support extensive social programs for the elderly. True, not?

That may be why immigration is continuing.

There is also the globalist movement, that supports a seamless world free of troublesome little items like national identity or loyalty. Those behind the original EU idea, possibly?

Mexifornia is the result of illegal immigration, not legal. It's too easy for someone to hop over the border from Mexico and find a job. Hopefully, that will change with the new interest in immigration reform.

But I understand what you mean about it being an issue that people on the ground are concerned with, while those at the top ignore it. Commerce without morality is the reason for the support of the business and political class in the US for immigration.

At July 25, 2005 12:44 AM, Blogger erp said...

From what I can gather, immigrants aren't being solicited for altruistic purposes, but to do the jobs that citizens don't want to do.

Since it's a buyer's market, why not hire people who have a proven track record for being hardworking, family oriented and honest rather than those who have a proven track record as rapists, suicide bombers and violent killers.

Now. That's a tough choice.


At July 25, 2005 1:10 AM, Blogger Runnymede1215 said...

Lower taxes so people can raise families with less work or by hiring their own nannies would result in people making babies again.

A new merit based immigration policy with immigrants treated as on a job interview, "Well, how can you contribute to our society?"


At July 25, 2005 5:28 AM, Blogger erp said...

Jeepers. You people know it all. Hispanics who come here to work are in fact just what I said they are. Are they desperate, of course. No matter how bad the neighborhoods you talk about are, they're a lot better than where they came from. Are their manners coarse and not as refined as a Wall Street lawyer. Yes. The difference between them and Muslims is they can and want to learn, and they want a better life for their kids.

Naive people want Muslims to worry about pension plans??? They are ignorant superstitious people still in the 12th century. They're not concerned with the future. You still want to talk, talk, talk. You want to hold job interviews. It's nuts.

Sorry. There's no hope. I do really think that Europe is a goner and that we better just worry about ourselves. No sense wasting any more money or resources on you.

At July 25, 2005 5:50 AM, Blogger bordergal said...

You need to look at the cost of those cheap mexican migrants, for health care, education, and incarcernation. I think illegal services cost the US some 65 billion per year.
Life for people near the border is hell because of the lawlessness. We just had a ten year old in a local park raped by two illegals. We had an illegal alien child molester working as a volunteer at a local school. It's hard to track all the data, because the press hides the information. Have you read any of the websites for the Aztlan folks? They are in the process of trying to retake the southwest through sheer overwhelming immigration. Nope, Mexico is doing us no favors.

Also, Mexico is dysfunctional because of its people, not because of lack of resources.

At July 25, 2005 5:00 PM, Blogger Jason Pappas said...

Successful immigration requires assimilation. That requires people who can assimilate (which rules out immigration from Islamic countries) and a proud culture that demands assimilation (that rules out the West as long as we have multi-culturalism.)

At July 25, 2005 8:11 PM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

Sorry, but I just don't take the word of a site that places the quote "For a White minority in a colored world" under its title. Where there's an agenda, there is bias.

At July 26, 2005 8:57 PM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

"nowwhere in all of Latin America, from the Mexican border down to Tierra del Fuego, is there a stabilized government."

Chile, Costa Rica and Mexico have stable governments. Corruption in Latin American countries varies based on culture and history. I've been to and/or lived in most of them and Mexico is by far the most corrupt. It is endemic, especially in government bureaucracies.

At July 27, 2005 3:35 PM, Blogger erp said...

Here's some facts to back up my contentions. Hispanic Americans Welcome

At July 28, 2005 12:11 AM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

Give me a break! How do you know those guys are aliens? They're just as likely (if not more so) to be 3rd generation Mecha members. Mecha, immigrant "rights" groups and others of their ilk are the people you should be worried about.

At July 28, 2005 8:48 PM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

Well, I thought they were part of a demonstration (hence, thinking it would consist of a dose of Mecha types). If they are just waiting on a corner for work, it is not much of an assumption to think they are alien day laborers. Of course, work is going to be hard to come by using those kinds of "hand signals!"

As far as Mecha, I consider them to be a racist and fascist organization that is just one step from being a terrorist group. But I don't think they have much room to grow because they represent a fringe "intellectual" side of Mexican-Americans that has little support in the Chicano community -- they are really just another one of the plethora of far-left groups that make a lot of noise but have little influence.

At July 29, 2005 1:37 AM, Blogger erp said...

If they had their families with them, this kind of undesirable behavior would greatly diminish. It's annoying, but are they gang-raping girls? Are the authorities dismissing their bad behavior because it's permitted in their culture.

The second generation Hispanic is an American, the second generation Muslim, is Muslim.

At July 29, 2005 8:53 AM, Blogger Don Miguel said...

"Are the authorities dismissing their bad behavior because it's permitted in their culture."

If you are talking about the photos, that kind of behavior is "permitted" much less in Latin American culture than it is in American. Shame is a concept that has almost disappeared from American and most European cultures, but is still strong south of the border (regardless of the actions of the ill-bred ass wipes in the photo).


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